August 14, 2001 09:22 AM
Lets get something straight right here
Yessuh! Let's get something straight
in public. I have a website that positively WRECKS
Frawley's idiotic table lies
and stories. It shows what a moron can do when you let him near a
computer. Enjoy it - it only proves that Frawley is a raving
lunatic. You're already here. Look around a little.
I suggest that you
listen and re-read this email.
And I suggest you EAT
your mail, LEERKOPF™.
Steve Leigh is a slug.
A "slug" with 20 times
your mental capacity. "LEER"
means "empty" and "KOPF" means "head" in German. That's
why your name is
LEERKOPF™ - YOU HAVE A
VACUUM UPSTAIRS - a cranial VACANCY.
"Room For Rent".
ANY TIME you think you can match wits with
ME, idiot Frawley, stand up alone - like a MAN - and
let's do it. I run rings around you and your
puppets - and it's
obvious. Idiots like you can't stand up to people like me. We
confuse you. We befuddle you. We stupefy you. We can out-think, out-logic, and
out-reason you in a microsecond. You're left in the dust wallowing in your
That's why your
As far as I am
concerned he is a low life piece of garbage guard dog trainer.
Which, yet again,
illustrates your stupidity. I've never trained a guard dog. Maybe
I'm a "low life piece of garbage" - and what are YOU? An EMPTY
HEAD WITH A HUGE MOUTH.
TOO MUCH TO SAY - NO FACTS TO BACK UP YOUR BULLSHIT. That's why
your name is
The guy has a
screw loose in his head - that is evident from the emails that I get from him. I
have blocked his emails from my system.
What a crock of shit.
Not only am I NOT blocked, I sent idiot LEERKOPF™ a page link. Less than 1
minute later, there he was. I didn't block Frawley's email - they're all
reprinted verbatim on another page. You can decide who has loose
I have also seen the trash talk this
jerk has written and posted about me on protection dog list. Those posts were
("forwarded" too difficult for you, LEERKOPF™
idiot?) to me.
The truth hurts?
You ought to write about FACTS, not your
LEERKOPF™ fairy tales.
I am not and do not care to be a member
of the protection dog list. I was several years ago and dropped out. Leigh and I
went at it then - so I have a history with this jerk.
LEERKOPF™ - YOU ARE
FULL OF SHIT.
I wasn't ON the protection dogs list several
I am not a fan of lists
that operate by sending e-mails to members - I get 50 to 100 normal personal
emails every day as it is and I don't care to get any more tha that.
So this is the way this board works - I
look at it as my back yard. If you want to come in and play thats fine. But if I
don't like you or if I think you are a piece of garbage I will kick you out of
my back yard. Thats a very easy and clear way to look it. I could give a rip if
people like Leigh or you don't like the rules. If you don't like the game then
don't play in my back yard!
Steve has no problem with
Expert Ed. I've got MY OWN back yard - the WFFCW - and it illustrates what
an idiot you are. A true
LEERKOPF™. And a
lying asshole, too.
As far as your opinion of table training
is concerned, it is eveident
idiot?) that you are new to this work and do not know much
about protection dog training. You have a lot to learn. Your comments on the
even spell "height",
idiot?) of the table and the dog feeling confident because it does not have to
look up at the helper indicate your lack of understanding of what is really
going on. All that tells me is that "You bought into the sales pitch" - thats
All that tells me is that Thomas
simply didn't clearly understand the logic and reasoning behind some exercises with his
dog. Big freaking deal. Being new to tables, he hadn't been exposed enough to recognize
the REAL reasons, and drew conclusions that seemed logical and obvious to him at the
moment. "Sales pitch"? There is none. Who's selling
Frawley sells "vidz-fer-kidz".
your "sales pitch"!
Gene England is a good dog trainer.
"Good"? Gene's done more with
and for dogs and handlers in the last 90 days than
Frawley and his puppets have
in their entire lives - collectively. Gene's trophy room is bigger
than 3 bedrooms.
LEERKOPF™, why don't
you tell us all about your trials? Tell us about how many times you've come home with 1st place trophies and/or High In Trial awards
- tell us about how you qualified for National AND World competitions.
Tell us ALL how many times you've WON National competitions - what were
don't you put some scans and photos on your kindergarten kiddy website, and we
can all be IMPRESSED with WHAT YOU HAVE NEVER DONE.
knows exactly what he is doing. He also knows how dangerous this work is when it
is done poorly.
Dangerous? Gene has
always been happy to teach the right way. He insists on it. Why is table training
DANGEROUS? Because an asshole like
LEERKOPF™ Frawley said so?
An idiot who has never SEEN tables or table training? Well, a "low
life piece of garbage" like ME says
is dangerous. And he's an idiot. And he's a liar. And his
spelling is SO bad, it's beyond deplorable.
Why do you think he has never done videos on this work?
I don't "THINK" - I
KNOW. Gene doesn't live for video sales like Frawley does.
Maybe it's because
isn't a PIMP. I have about 200 video hours of Gene doing table work, I'm
sure plenty of other people do, too. Gene isn't about to let "table
Frawley do a table training video with him.
Gene refused to
tape the SchHUSA National Schutzhund trials held on his property years ago. Want
to address THAT one, Frawley? The two times you were told
you COULD NOT make video tapes on Gene's property? Was that 1982
and 1985? Or should we
hide that in a closet someplace?
People who are new to protection dog
work (like you) fail to understand that bite training is not like obedience
training. Bite training in the eyes of the dog borders on combat training.
Bullshit, garbage, and
drivel from the
The idiot who has NEVER SEEN tables.
all dogs (or 15 months old puppies)are ready for real combat. Putting them on a
table, in a position where they have to learn to defend themselves from a helper
is traumatic situaton (try "situation", idiot) for them - contrary to what you or Leigh may think.
Now you take someone with 20% less skill
than Gene England
YOU take someone with 20% less skill than Gene - take your puppets
who LOVE your "vidz-fer-kidz". Gene's colleagues
DON'T have 20% less skill than Gene - Gene SEES to that. That's why Gene
is Gene. GENE IS A TRAINER, idiot. You are NOT
difference between watching your idiotic "vidz-fer-kidz" videos and LEARNING
from Gene. You empty headed moron - Gene TEACHES.
You SELL "vidz-fer-kidz".
I've seen dozens of SHIT
"helpers" that have "vidz-fer-kidz". The suckers
ordered bunches of your kiddy vidz. I wouldn't let them
near a dog if the dog was alive.
and have them work on the table and screw up one time (it only
takes one time) and this combat situation turns into a fear - life and death
situation to the dog.
Except for one thing,
LEERKOPF™. We've been trained NOT to screw up. YOU'RE the one
that needs a little "combat". Why don't you take that yapping LEERKOPF™
face, and head down to the local ghetto? Go talk some shit with a few
pimps, and get your dumb ass carved up - try some real "combat", idiot.
The experience is like a women getting rapes.
Why don't you take some LANGUAGE courses? LEARN TO READ AND WRITE IN
ENGLISH. LEARN HOW TO TURN ON YOUR SPELL CHECKER, you idiot.
lucky your name is ED. It's only two letters - not much room to screw
that up, is there, idiot?
THEY DO NOT
FORGET THIS - NOT EVER !!!!! Ask a women who has been raped if the fear ever
leave her mind - I can tell you from experience on the sheriff's department that
it does not.
So don't give me your beginner song and
dance sales pitch. Go learn something about how to properly train a protection
Damn right, LEERKOPF™.
I'm glad I learned - from Gene. Not from your "vidz-fer-kidz".
It all comes back to this - if you have
a well trained helper that understands how to take a dog through prey drive
"development", idiot) and work him into a little defense and aggression drive (if the dog
has aggression or fight drive) there is no need for these stupid tables.
Yeah - you're Frawley
How can a TABLE be stupid? Are leashes stupid, too? Maybe they
should go to your school -
They could learn how to SPELL correctly.
Not all dogs can or should be trained to
do protection work. Even when it is done properly many dogs simply do not have
the genetic make-up for the work.
Nobody ever said they
Guard dog trainers, like Steve Leigh,
have to be able to work with everything that walks through their front door -
regardless of genes. For them table training is the solution to a dog whose
genetic make-up cannot do the work with correct training.
Prove these statements any time you want,
way you can. Then watch me prove you 100% wrong.
Schutzhund clubs that try and train show
dogs who don't have the genetic make-up (solid nerves) for sport work are also
people who use this mehtod
(it's "method", idiot) of work. Many (not all) show dog people want their
dogs to look like a badass. Putting them on a table and working them in defense
and fight or flight will create just that picture.
Just more bullshit.
But when guys like you and Leigh start
telling new sport dog trainers that this is the second coming of christ - well
thats a line of bull.
know - you write bullshit all day long.
Any new trainer who buys into this has not been exposed to
good helpers who understand the drives of a dog and how to use these drives in a
solid foundation of bite development. There are much better ways to train a
What I find interesting is that you had
Bernard Flinks in NM is past March. I was there and did not see you at his
seminar. Flinks is one of THE BEST sport dog trainers in the world.
Are you overlooking Gene England?
He's 100x superior to your
new hero, Flinks - except you can't make a nickel off Gene and your "vidz-fer-kidz".
Recognize the difference?
Plenty of us do.
You seem to
be missing the ball on your dog training.
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