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« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2007, 06:38: AM »

Save your time and energy.  It should be obvious - going on 6 years now - that your questions don't get any answers from me. None. Not under any circumstances. 

I know stevie.  You're afraid to answer any of my questions because you know the answers.  You're a complete liar.  You've never trained any dogs for police work. You've not titled "many" dogs, and you know little about Ecollars.  You're terrified to have any kind of debate with me except on your own website where you can say anything that you like without fear of being exposed for the complete fraud that you are. 

Your mile long messages can't begin to prove that you're honest about anything. 

And your constant evasions, for years now, prove that none of your claims of having trained police dogs or having titled any dogs are true.  If you'd done any of those things it would be a cinch to supply contact information for them.  But you constantly refuse to do so proving that none of it is true.  I, on the other hand have provided a phone number so that anyone can call my old department and check up on me.  I've offered to supply phone numbers and names of people that I've worked with so that anyone who desired to do so, can check up on my claims.  You're nothing but an empty suit. 

This is why the WFFCW exposes you as a chronic liar

All that your website proves is that you're an impotent psycho who's afraid to debate me in the public forum about anything.  You set it up so that you can twist my words and make your stupid comments without any response from me.  You are so disturbed that you've posted information there about how you plan to kill yourself when the end nears; about your recent stupidity of falling for a Nigerian Scam (that's a new low, even for you ROFLMAO) and more. 

using your own messages to do it. 

No stevie, only some of them are my messages.  You've twisted some of them so badly they don't even come close to what was originally written.  And that doesn't even count the complete forgeries. 

It's rapidly approaching 2 million hits now, louie, thanks largely to you.

stevie I have no doubt that in your spare time you sit around hitting your own website to boost those numbers.  In any case, your website says more about you than it does about me.  You've been stalking me for at least six years now.  There's obviously something wrong with someone who does that. And you prove it each time that you appear, refuse to answer questions about your claims and then slink away. 

My website proves that you're dishonest.  Your lies, accusations, and assumptions are all over that website

It proves nothing stevie, except that you're demented.  Back before your website was set up you used to stalk me around various forums making these absurd statements.  Then when I started kicking you’re a$$ in our debates you realized that you looked stupider each time you appeared.  And so you started emailing me privately.  Those were some of the most vile, most profanity filled and least intelligent emails that I've ever received.  And so I blocked you.  Your response was to change your email address and keep sending me more rubbish.  In all I think I blocked 8-10 (I don't bother keeping count, you're not that important) of your email addresses.  Finally I blocked your entire domain, stopping your completely.  That's when you set up your website.  When you couldn't get to me any more.  Your psychosis required that you keep banging away. 

You're so obsessed with me that you still follow me around doing what you're doing here; mostly making an idiot of yourself and depriving (in this case) Laura of information that she's asked for.  But you don't care, you're so wrapped up in yourself and your fixation on me that you everything else is blocked out. 

Get some help stevie, you really need it. 

Any other questions, louie?

Just the same old ones that you've refused to answer in the past.  Please provide some references to back up your claims of having trained dogs for police departments and having titled many dogs.  You're a liar stevie and you keep on proving it every time that your chemicals go out of balance prompting you to make a brief public appearance.  Every time you do it's the same thing.  You call me a liar and I offer to supply references to anyone who doubts me in the slightest.  Then I call you a liar, and you refuse to back up any of your claims.  I'm perfectly happy to let people draw whatever inference they like from my complete openness and your complete cover-up.  That's fine with me. 
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« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2007, 07:05: AM »

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your questions don't get any answers from me. None. Not under any circumstances.
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Course you don’t, you write reams of mini statements one after the other some pasted from other places and just stick them on here and apparently other boards

I asked some well known trainers in the US who you were, non of them spent more than a line on you and everyone said no one knows who you are in terms of dog training, you just plod around the net under the name you use here – most think your just someone who amuses themselves in this way but you are not known in dog training circles there.


Maybe you could answer Lous post of last year, you avoided it then instead of disrupting posts here.
 http://www.petfriendlyworld.com/chat/dog-behaviour-and-training-issues/positive-vs-e-collar-training/msg56868/#msg56868
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« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2007, 08:23: AM »

Are you boys having a three way conversation without the rest of us, i feel left out now Tongue
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« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2007, 08:32: AM »

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Are you boys having a three way conversation without the rest of us, i feel left out now

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I don't know if I feel left out or just plain lost the plot.......... Steve Leigh has recommended the poster calls Culver City police dept CA to stop this bullmastiff refusing recall........I'm going back to bed to sleep on it.
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« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2007, 10:54: AM »

That's funny i did not read it, so perhaps you have lost the plot, i would sleep on other things rather than waste your time on strange people
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« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2007, 06:07: PM »

You really have hijaked this topic and i havent even bothered to read half of it. Denis_Carthy, you obviously make a profit out of selling shock training to desperate people so i take your views on this about as seriously as the dog waste i stepped in this morning. Id appreciate it if you could quote me directly rather than make quotes up. Three of the sources i gave were from some of the biggest organisations in britain involved with dogs, some how i find myself trusting them more than you. I will never use a shock collar and i cannot wait for the day to arrive when people like you will get prosecuted for doing so.
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« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2007, 07:19: PM »

Save your time and energy.  It should be obvious - going on 6 years now - that your questions don't get any answers from me. None. Not under any circumstances. 

Voodoo Louie replied: "I know stevie."

Apparently, you don't know. I've made it clear for years that you're not going to question me, and you still continue. Thus you don't (or can't) comprehend that I'm not going to be questioned by you. I'd try to make it clearer, but I just don't know how.
 
Your never ending contradictions (lies) can be found at www.sl-prokeys.com/wffcw 
That's where you can find answers to your questions, including your ultra-informative collection of falsifications (lies) about table training, located at www.sl-prokeys.com/wffcw/vl_voodoo-dogchat.htm .... you'll also like www.sl-prokeys.com/wffcw/sl_wreck.htm#voodoo - a little page capture with some pictures which prove your falsifications (lies). For most sane people, photographs and videos constitute the truth. Tellingly, you can't provide photos or videos to substantiate your "version" of facts or truth. That says more about you than it does about me.
 
Of course, that website is so intimidating, you'll probably attempt another restraining order against me, even though the last time you tried, it was denied - never processed, never served.  That page, complete with scans of your lies in your handwriting, sworn under oath, would be www.sl-prokeys.com/wffcw/vl_insane.htm

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« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2007, 08:08: PM »

You really have hijaked this topic

Only one person has hijacked this topic and it's not Denis.  It's psycho stevie.  Laura, the OP, asked how best to stop her dog from running off.  Denis and I think that the Ecollar will give the quickest and best results for that. 

and i havent even bothered to read half of it.

OK. You're not required to learn anything new. 

Denis_Carthy, you obviously make a profit out of selling shock training to desperate people

I'm sure that some of them are desperate.  I'm just as sure that most of them are not. 

so i take your views on this about as seriously as the dog waste i stepped in this morning.

Rude and a flair for words! 

Three of the sources i gave were from some of the biggest organisations in britain involved with dogs

And some of them with a vested interest in protecting a certain groups of trainers. 

I will never use a shock collar

OK.  Neither Denis nor I care.  Laura asked how to stop her dog from running off.  We were addressing her. 

and i cannot wait for the day to arrive when people like you will get prosecuted for doing so.

I'd suggest that you not hold your breath on that.  Your legislators chose not to ban or even restrict Ecollars in the slightest.  I think that's about to become law very soon. 
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« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2007, 08:28: PM »

You mean a recall like this Lou 




Tilly, the one in front was 6 months old and I had her for 2 months, no e collars were used with these dogs. Grin
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« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2007, 09:10: PM »

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Tilly, the one in front was 6 months old and I had her for 2 months, no e collars were used with these dogs.


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How interesting your here - back to 'Emmy' Wink again.

I was wondering 'Emmy this time' [ Grin] if you would oblige the board with some educational material about Oscar, you remember Oscar don't you-yes I am sure you do.

As you know he came on a healthy bouncy 10 months old, lets jump a bit from that to when he was 15 months old, you had your second involvment with him - namely you sent Antony who had never had a dog in his life before, to one of your freinds the posts are below the relevant part of that post is below - would you update is as to what happened after that?

Look below 'Emmy this timeGrin a little memory jog for you (on the remote off chance you forgot) when you refered Antony to your 'positive' holistic trainer friend - what happened 'Emmy this time' as it was the third time you persuaded him to a 'positive' trainer  Wink ( Does £160 odd for an afternoon and no success remind you of anything? )
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Antony-Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:27 pm  
Post subject: Problem with dominance
Not posted for a while as I've been busy @ work but for the last few month Oscar
(Airedale 15mths) has been trying to hump after we have been playing and he's still in Airedale hypo mode or after we've been playing chase.
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We still have problems with recall and getting his attention. Being a new dog person i've read a couple of the threads on dominance but can't recall seeing one on humpin the owner.(Now please its not a Frankie Howard film).



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Antony, If you email me I can give you the telephone number of someone in Manchester who may be able to help.

True, very sad, rip off story coming up folks -

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« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2007, 10:00: PM »

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Save your time and energy.  It should be obvious - going on 6 years now - that your questions don't get any answers from me. None. Not under any circumstances. 

And I replied  "I know stevie."

Apparently, you don't know. I've made it clear for years that you're not going to question me, and you still continue.

Yes I know that too stevie.  Each time I ask and you refuse it again shows that you have no credibility.  Your website is nothing but a place for you to go and play with yourself, it's just a form of mental masturbation, some place for you to burn off energy.  Anytime you bring some of your lies or forgeries to a forum I will again ask the same questions. 

Thus you don't (or can't) comprehend that I'm not going to be questioned by you. I'd try to make it clearer, but I just don't know how.


You are going to be questioned by me whenever you post.  You can refused to respond to those questions but they will be asked.  Your constant refusal to respond shows everyone that you're a coward and a liar who refuses to answer very simple questions and that your claims of having trained dogs for police departments and having titled "many dogs" are lies.  You have no credibility. 

Anyone who doubts my credibility is invited to phone my old police department and ask about me.  Any one who wants to can ask for my references and they'll be supplied.  I wonder why you won't supply yours? 

Recently on a post in another thread on this forum you claimed that you'd trained police dogs in "~20 states."  I challenge you to provide contact information for those police departments.  I'll be reasonable and only ask for ten of them.  You've supplied the phone number for my old PD (something I've offered to do several times to anyone who asks) but you make wild claims like this one and then don't back them up.  Your refusal to answer these very simple questions makes it clear that you're a liar.  You haven't done as you've claimed, as you'd like us to believe.  You're one of the biggest frauds on the Net. 

That's where (your website) you can find answers to your questions

Are you saying that on your website there's contact information for police dog training that you've done?  I don't think so.  Are you saying that there's information to support your claim of having "titled many dogs?"  Again, I don't think so.  If you disagree simply supply the direct link to the page that has that information.  There's no reason that I, or anyone, should have to wade through pages of twaddle to find the simple answers to simple questions. 

including your ultra-informative collection of falsifications (lies) about table training,

What "lies" are those stevie?  If you want a response to them, post them here.  Here is where you've chosen to make your stand so here is where they should be posted.  I have no intention of leafing through dozens of pages of your website (the size alone shows the degree of your psychosis) to find what you call "my lies."

For most sane people

I don't think that someone who is as obsessed as you are on me is qualified to talk about what "sane people" think.  ROFL. 

photographs and videos constitute the truth.

They can but anyone knows that they can be faked. 

Tellingly, you can't provide photos or videos to substantiate your "version" of facts or truth. That says more about you than it does about me.

I don't need videos to know that you've abused dogs on your training table stevie.  The mere fact that virtually everyone (you included) who uses that tool does so behind closed doors after building costly buildings to hide what they do from public view; is plenty of evidence of what you used to do, perhaps what you still do.  The fact that you did all of this out of the public view means that there's no video of it.  That hardly means that you didn't do it. 

Tell us stevie, why else would you only do table training behind closed doors out of the view of the public? 

More evidence of this abuse is the fact that your hero, Gene England has all but admitted that he used to strangle dogs on the training table.  Since you worship at his feet, there's no doubt that you did the same. 

It's quite possible that the real reason you won't supply references to your alleged police training is that you know that they'll tell the truth about what they saw, you strangling dogs and otherwise abusing them on the training table. 

Of course, that website is so intimidating

Intimidating?  What a laugh!  A complete waste of my time is what it is. 

you'll probably attempt another restraining order against me, even though the last time you tried, it was denied

It wasn't denied stevie.  I never went back to court to complete the process so it couldn't have been "denied."  Yet another psycho stevie lie. 

never processed, never served. 

The application for the restraining order WAS processed and WAS served.  That's how you got a copy of it.  More psycho stevie lies. 

BTW did you know that Gene England told me that you'd titled just ONE DOG?  Did you know that he told me that you'd brought back a dog from Germany that had a title and that you'd repeated that title, JUST ONCE, something that virtually anyone can do with a pre-trained dog.  And that you'd never titled any other dogs.  Do you know that when I mention your name to him, that he gives a little laugh.  Even your mentor thinks you're a joke stevie, and since you refuse to answer easy questions about your claims, the rest of us know the truth about you as well. 

So stevie, can you supply any contact information for the police dogs that you say that you've trained?  Can you give us information on the "many dogs" that you claim to have titled?  Can you give us contact information for any of the police departments in the "~20 states" that you claim to have trained dogs for? 
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« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2007, 10:12: PM »

You mean a recall like this Lou

I'm sorry Emmy.  I see one dog who's running towards the camera position and a black smudge.  I've enlarged the photo 5X and I still can't tell whether the black smudge is headed towards or away from the camera. 

But I'll take you word for it that both dogs are recalling.  Did they start from back at the fence?  Why is one dog so far in front of the other?  The dog in front appears to be running, but not at any significant speed.  He seems a bit confused as if he's not sure what he's supposed to be doing.  Is that your example of a good recall?  If so, I'd say that our standards are far different. 

no e collars were used with these dogs.

Yes, and?
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« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2007, 10:22: PM »

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I'm sorry Emmy.  I see one dog who's running towards the camera position and a black smudge.  I've enlarged the photo 5X and I still can't tell whether the black smudge is headed towards or away from the camera. 


Very black dogs do look like black smudges in the distance, but to me her ears do look to be at the front of the smudge and not the back.


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But I'll take you word for it that both dogs are recalling.  Did they start from back at the fence?  Why is one dog so far in front of the other?  The dog in front appears to be running, but not at any significant speed.  He seems a bit confused as if he's not sure what he's supposed to be doing.  Is that your example of a good recall?  If so, I'd say that our standards are far different. 


The black dog was at the fence, the other wasn't there but not far, she is part Greyhound so is much faster than the black one even though she was so young.   As to her face, she always looks confused, it is normal for her.  Dogs racing back at the speed they are doing is a good recall or are they going too fast for you?   They hind legs are in line with their front which shows they are running straight and not crooked.


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Yes, and?

Just the command to come, once Grin
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« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2007, 10:30: PM »

Hi all,
Thanks for all the advice,If an ecollar is what I think it is an electric shock Im sorry but I would never use that on my dog.
I have taken my dog to dog training classes,he passed the puppy class no problems and then the second class no problem.  It has just been reasently him runnig off when he sees someone he is very well behaved otherwise thats why I cant understand why he is doing this.
Today he saw a cyclist he thought about it then went I hid and he panict he realy did he stayd by my side the whole time till I put him back on the lead.
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« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2007, 10:32: PM »

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I see one dog who's running towards the camera position and a black smudge.

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I saw something else.........well maybe thats not phrased very well, however, (try again) there are no distractions, so its a recall without distractions, easy stuff. this bullmastiff is fine when there are no distractions, I suppose thats the point... Huh
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