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Frawley's Psycho Words

Steve's message to LEERKOPF Frawley
 

Below are email messages I received from Ed Frawley, the "expert" who knows all about table training. 

They started on August 12, and ended on August 13.

Frawley's text is RED

Steve Leigh's text is BLUE


Frawley slides into this name calling thing big time .... the pedophile and homosexual suggestions - and his obvious frustration - are hysterical.  I can just envision his little red, puffy face, beating his fists on the desk, hair falling out, typing away frantically (and misspelling everything!), while his veins bulge, blood pressure soars, and his pupils dilate.

This is *truly* a man who needs medication, y'all!

When you're finished reading these attacks on me, click over to Frawley's attacks on Fred Hassen, and see Frawley's latest "tactic". 

These messages, with complete header information, routing info, etc., are in a small zipfile - download it.

You ready?  Here we go!
In the RED CORNER - Frawley
In the BLUE CORNER - Steve Leigh

Steve's additional comments: green


Frawley's first message:

From: "Ed Frawley" <frawley@leerburg.com>
To: <sleigh@TAMPABAY.RR.COM>
Subject: FW: Re: [PD-L] Tables
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:25:49 -0500

I had a few people send me your emails today. Very interesting attitude. I hope you publish a book - I will give you some free advertising on my web site before it comes out. I always try and do a good deed to insulting mother fuckers. Keep an eye on my site - I will open a forum on table training and quote you. There is always a place for red necks and ass holes - you seem to fit both

Ed Frawley

My reply:

At 05:25 PM 8/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
I had a few people send me your emails today. Very interesting attitude. I hope you publish a book - I will give you some free advertising on my web site before it comes out. I always try and do a good deed to insulting mother fuckers. Keep an eye on my site - I will open a forum on table training and quote you. There is always a place for red necks and ass holes - you seem to fit both

We've been around once already, Yipyap.  Don't waste your time, it doesn't work on me, and you mean absolutely nothing in my world.

Steve Leigh - sleigh@tampabay.rr.com
www.sl-prokeys.com

Frawley's reply:

From: "Ed Frawley" <frawley@leerburg.com>
To: "Steve Leigh" <sleigh@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: RE: FW: Re: [PD-L] Tables
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:34:31 -0500

I guess it goes two ways. You have a better memory that I do because I don't have a clue who you are other than a big mouth mother fucker  - you need to stay in the piano business - I hope you know more about music than you do about dog training

Best Regards

Ed Frawley
Leerburg.com
715-235-6502

My reply:

At 05:34 PM 8/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
I guess it goes two ways. You have a better memory that I do because I don't have a clue who you are other than a big mouth mother fucker  - you need to stay in the piano business - I hope you know more about music than you do about dog training

Best Regards

Ed Frawley
Leerburg.com
715-235-6502

Yipyapper - you're just wasting your time.  I've been training long enough to understand your "KIND" ..... your idiot messages and the "motherfucker" just reinforce it.  All we do at my training school is laugh at you and your "vidz".

I told you a long time ago, I have no use for your videos.  I don't/won't spend a nickel on the kind of stuff you're peddling, and your concepts seem incredibly juvenile to me.  I think it's pitiful that some young guys are going to use your example to learn helper work.

Of course my memory is better than yours.  So is my spelling and command of English.  But it's not important because "Vidz Fer Kidz!" ain't for US!

No regards, Frawley.  None needed.

Steve Leigh - sleigh@tampabay.rr.com
www.sl-prokeys.com

Frawley's reply:

From: "Ed Frawley" <frawley@leerburg.com>
To: "Steve Leigh" <sleigh@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: RE: FW: Re: [PD-L] Tables
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:10:46 -0500

Well check out my web board - I am giving you and your stupid ideas a little free advertising and it will continue. We will see who people choose to listen to. I only have a few customers on my mailing list and you know what - I don't need your business or the business of the people you train with. I do very very well on my own.

I would stick to the piano business maybe you know more about that than dog training - on the other hand you probably can't carry a tune.

So Yipyapper mother fucker ! :)

My reply:

At 06:10 PM 8/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
Well check out my web board - I am giving you and your stupid ideas a little free advertising and it will continue.

The reason you couldn't do that is that you can't GET to my ideas.  :)  I'm not willing to share them with you.  It's your webpage (try using a spell checker on it, willya?) and you can devote as much of it to me as you want :))

We will see who people choose to listen to. I only have a few customers on my mailing list and you know what - I don't need your business or the business of the people you train with. I do very very well on my own.

Of course you do!!  What difference does it make?  None.

I would stick to the piano business

Perfect example, Yipyapper!  IF YOU COULD READ, and if you could comprehend the pictures in front of your own eyes, you would have seen there ARE NO PIANOS THERE .... those are clearly NOT pianos.  You couldn't read my webpage any better than you could understand tabletop training.

Steve Leigh - sleigh@tampabay.rr.com
www.sl-prokeys.com

Frawley's reply:

From: "Ed Frawley" <frawley@leerburg.com>
To: "Steve Leigh" <sleigh@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: RE: FW: Re: [PD-L] Tables
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:57:05 -0500

I know about as much about pianos as you know about dog training :) But at least I am smart enough to admit it.

Spelling was never my long suit - dog training was. This usually only bothers nerds.

As far as your ideas go - I read your stupid posts. There are no ideas that you have - not one - that warrant a comment other than as a warning to new trainers. Like I said - stick to the Piano business mother fucker.

Best Regards

Ed Frawley
Leerburg.com
715-235-6502

My reply:

At 06:57 PM 8/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
I know about as much about pianos as you know about dog training :)

Wrong.

But at least I am smart enough to admit it.

Wrong again.

Spelling was never my long suit - dog training was. This usually only bothers nerds.

Don't bother ME at all - YOU'RE the one that spells like a 4th grader.  :))

As far as your ideas go - I read your stupid posts. There are no ideas that you have - not one - that warrant a comment other than as a warning to new trainers. Like I said - stick to the Piano business mother fucker.

ROFLMAO!  You're funny, yipyap, but you know that!

Steve Leigh - sleigh@tampabay.rr.com
www.sl-prokeys.com

Frawley's reply:

From: "Ed Frawley" <frawley@leerburg.com>
To: "Steve Leigh" <sleigh@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: RE: FW: Re: [PD-L] Tables
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:09:05 -0500

I hope you are following my comments on my board ass hole - of course if you are so proud of your fucking tables it probably doesn't matter.  :)

You have a serious case of hill billyitis (did I spell that right?) mother fucker

Best Regards

Ed Frawley
Leerburg.com
715-235-6502

My reply:

At 08:09 PM 8/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
I hope you are following my comments on my board ass hole - of course if you are so proud of your fucking tables it probably doesn't matter.  :)

You have a serious case of hill billyitis (did I spell that right?) mother fucker

Best Regards

Ed Frawley
Leerburg.com
715-235-6502

Yipyap, except to grab a copy of your idiot "review" of table training, I've never SEEN your site.

Yeah, I'm proud of my tables, they're worth hundreds of your videos.

Keep sending your jiveass messages - all we do is laugh at you.

Steve Leigh - sleigh@tampabay.rr.com
www.sl-prokeys.com

Frawley's reply:

From: "Ed Frawley" <frawley@leerburg.com>
To: "Steve Leigh" <sleigh@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: RE:
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:33:31 -0500

I remind you are the copyright on my articles - I don't are what you write but if you post my copyright material to your web site then we have a problem.

If you want your name listed in the next printing of my catalog - 45,000 copies will be printed go ahead and screw with my copyright articles.

Just an honest warning.

Best Regards

Ed Frawley
Leerburg.com
715-235-6502

My reply:

At 02:33 PM 8/13/01 -0500, you wrote:
I remind you are the copyright on my articles - I don't are what you write but if you post my copyright material to your web site then we have a problem.

Your material is credited to YOU.  I have clearly shown that YOU ALONE are the one that owns the copyright.  Nothing at all has been done to your copyrighted "work"  - I didn't even fix your 2nd grade spelling errors!

If you want your name listed in the next printing of my catalog - 45,000 copies will be printed go ahead and screw with my copyright articles.

ROFLMAO!  I haven't - and wouldn't steal anything that belongs to you - but I HAVE and I WILL rebut every lie and fabrication in that article.  :)))

You can print anything you want to in your "catalog", yipyap - have 450,000 printed for all I care!

Just an honest warning.

Thank you :))

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/steveleigh/frawley_lies.htm

Click right there - it's a laugh!!!

Steve Leigh - sleigh@tampabay.rr.com
www.sl-prokeys.com

Frawley's reply:

From: "Ed Frawley" <frawley@leerburg.com>
To: "Steve Leigh" <sleigh@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: RE:
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:50:47 -0500

Just so that you understand this very clearly. I do not give you the right to reproduce any part of my copyright text for any reason. Simply putting this on the web site is a violation of my copyright. This is the last time I am going to warn you on this. If you reproduce my copyright material I will list your name on my web site and in my catalog as a thief. If this is what you want then you will have t deal with the consequences.

Best Regards

Ed Frawley
Leerburg.com
715-235-6502

My reply:

At 02:50 PM 8/13/01 -0500, you wrote:
Just so that you understand this very clearly.

Just so that YOU understand this very clearly - you need to call your lawyer, and ask if printing a rebuttal to your false statements REQUIRES your permission.  Your copyright doesn't extend beyond authorship.

I will list your name on my web site and in my catalog as a thief.

Be absolutely SURE to list what was "stolen", and that it is used to rebut YOUR LIES and fabrications.  In fact, why not print the web address in your "catalog" AND put it on your website so people can see that you're wrong?

And if you KEEP threatening me with your stupidity, every one of your messages - verbatim - is going onto that same page, too.  Then your "list" can see exactly what kind of a person you are.

Steve Leigh - sleigh@tampabay.rr.com
www.sl-prokeys.com

 
As a point of interest - "Expert" Frawley's FIRST MENTION of "my copyright material" happened at 2:33 pm.  By 2:50 pm (seventeen minutes later!) the threats had escalated considerably.  The "expert" idiot moves fast!

Frawley's reply:

From: "Ed Frawley" <frawley@leerburg.com>
To: "Steve Leigh" <sleigh@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: RE:
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:44:48 -0500

Your name will be fine - it goes in the catalog. It will be on the web site tomorrow.

No problem - you can use the advertising - I remember out previous encounter.

Come up and say hi if we are ever at a dog show. Would be interesting.

Best Regards

Ed Frawley
Leerburg.com
715-235-6502

My reply:

At 04:44 PM 8/13/01 -0500, you wrote:
Your name will be fine - it goes in the catalog. It will be on the web site tomorrow.

Hey - no rush, Ed.  Sure you don't want to do it tonight?

No problem - you can use the advertising - I remember out previous encounter.

Good for you!  You sober now?  Hey - did you learn anything from my rebuttal?  Or you still trying to sell "tables wreck dogs"?

Come up and say hi if we are ever at a dog show. Would be interesting.

Sure it would :))

Steve Leigh - sleigh@tampabay.rr.com
www.sl-prokeys.com

Frawley's reply:

Reply-To: <Frawley@leerburg.com>
From: "Ed Frawley" <frawley@leerburg.com>
To: "Steve Leigh" <sleigh@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: RE:
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:58:37 -0500

I guess you have not checked the table of contents - - you are there - this page gets 500 to 1000 hits a day

Ed Frawley
leerburg.com
715-235-6502

My reply:

At 06:58 PM 8/13/01 -0500, you wrote:
I guess you have not checked the table of contents - - you are there - this page gets 500 to 1000 hits a day

Ed Frawley
leerburg.com
715-235-6502

No yipper- I haven't.  If you're happy I'm there - I'm happy I'm there, too.  And I hope you get an extra 2000 hits a day, if that makes you happier still.   :)))

I don't bother going to your web site because you have nothing of interest there.  I really wouldn't have even bothered looking at your jive table article, except it was so completely choking with misinformation, I felt it was ........ IMMORAL!

ROFLMAO!

Steve Leigh - sleigh@tampabay.rr.com
www.sl-prokeys.com

Frawley's (finally) last psychotic words:

Reply-To: <Frawley@leerburg.com>
From: "Ed Frawley" <frawley@leerburg.com>
To: "Steve Leigh" <sleigh@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: RE:
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:53:21 -0500

Well I will tell you what. I will block your email address from my system. I will put your name in my catalog - the catalog goes to print in about 5 weeks. If you remove the web page before that I will take your name off the catalog and the web site. If you don't think that the advertising as a thief hurts you then don't do it.

But in the mean time you have worn out your welcome.

The dog business never stops amazing me - there are idiot mother fucker like you out there - not many - in fact very very few - kind of like a bad case of the shits.

I do have to say that I have mental images of you being a slimy like cock sucker - :) Someone who likes little boys and that kid of thing.  But anyway - you ar egone and the system has blocked you.

Ed Frawley
leerburg.com
715-235-6502


Frawley's last message was August 13, 2001.
Have I removed this webpage?  NO.
Has his "catalog" printed?  YES.
Is my name in his "catalog"?  NO.
Is Frawley a liar?  YES.


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