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WHAT IS THIS WEBSITE ABOUT?  Some of this is a personal website containing REBUTTAL, REPLY, and COMMENT to (primarily) public statements and accusations made by various self proclaimed "internet dog training experts".  The majority of the statements and accusations are FALSE, and refer to me, personally.  The nucleus of this website is based on verbatim quotes of public messages, most of which are archived with their respective lists.  Unless noted, nothing has been altered, other than formatting line length to screen width and changing the font style.  Other parts of this site contain OPINIONS, HUMOR, PARODY, COMEDY, and SARCASM which reflect my own personal sense of humor and viewpoints.  The First Amendment of the Constitution adequately, particularly, and specifically provides these rights.  This site is for educational and entertainment purposes.  This is emphatically not a "hate" site.  There is no hate, and never was.  Profanity is kept to a minimum, but it does exist.  If this website seems offensive to you, in any way, please leave now.  Please do not subject yourself to being offended.

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Steve's message to Voodoo Louie Castle

Below are a few new messages - August, 2004.  If you've read any of the earlier Voodoo pages, or if you've downloaded and read the "evidence zipfile", you already know that Louie has publicly accused me on numerous occasions of "DOES use electricity on the testicles of dogs that he trains and that he DOES habitually choke dogs to the point of unconsciousness", and other acts of insane cruelty. 

If you read the evidence files carefully, he also publicly accuses Gene England of teaching me to do these things. 

This week, we've had an exchange of mail, something I've been expecting for quite awhile. 

Voodoo Louie's text is RED

Steve Leigh's text is BLUE

How about some FORGERY?

Voodoo has a problem, and the problem is .......

If you just can't slow down and read - at least check out TODAY'S (September 6, 2004) addition.


Louie's First Strike:

X-Original-To: steve at sl-prokeys dot com
Delivered-To: steveleigh@mail05.powweb.com
From: UnclLou@aol.com
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 20:08:15 EDT
Subject: Re: (no subject)
To: steve at sl-prokeys dot com
X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5000
X-Antivirus: Clean

In a message dated 8/14/2004 4:32:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, steve at sl-prokeys dot com writes:

You owe it to yourself to view the latest pages, clearly illustrating your own contradictions, at the World Famous Frawley/Castle Website.

+++ I noticed that no one was interested in your nonsense on the UK forum!  Poor Steve.  It's interesting to note that it was posted there about a year ago and no one thought it was worth anything then either.  Why don't you join a debate there? 

It was also posted to someone I'm doing a seminar for by another loser who won't debate me, in the hopes that the person putting the seminar on would cancel me out.  Instead they commented to me what a psycho you are.  ROFL. 

Why don't you come onto some email list or forum and debate me?  Why is it that you only write on your website where you can say whatever nonsense comes to you pitiful mind? 

It's because you're a coward.  And it shows.  I've embarrassed you on so many lists that you just can't stand to see it happen again. 

So spend your time on your stupid website.  Most people take one look and realize what a psycho you are.  It says more about you than about me. 

Enjoy Steve. 

Then Steve:

At 08:08 PM 8/14/2004, you wrote:

+++ I noticed that no one was interested in your nonsense on the UK forum!  Poor Steve.  It's interesting to note that it was posted there about a year ago and no one thought it was worth anything then either.  Why don't you join a debate there? 

There's nothing I'm interested in debating about.  You can debate for everyone.
(Below, I offer you some logs.  I think you'd be surprised to see how many times the UK board is the referring URL link.  In other words, how many different people came to the WFFCW as a direct link from the UK message board.)

It was also posted to someone I'm doing a seminar for by another loser who won't debate me, in the hopes that the person putting the seminar on would cancel me out.  Instead they commented to me what a psycho you are.  ROFL. 

Well, I supposed a person might think I'm a psycho.  I have over 600 emails here stating that YOU'RE the psycho.  They may be added to your pages if I get to them.  But it makes no real difference.  Some people may think I'm a psycho, while others know I'm not a psycho.  Big deal.

Why don't you come onto some email list or forum and debate me?  Why is it that you only write on your website where you can say whatever nonsense comes to you pitiful mind? 

I have nothing to debate with you.  Of course, nobody is prohibiting you from coming to my message forum and stating your side of what is written on my website.  I won't censor you from writing messages.  You can start a topic and go with it.  If what I'm writing is nonsense from my pitiful mind, then join the message forum and prove it.  You have the same opportunity to refute or rebut my comments and statements as you've always had.  I've never had an exclusive privilege in that respect - you're welcome to refute and rebut all you want.

It's because you're a coward.  And it shows.  I've embarrassed you on so many lists that you just can't stand to see it happen again. 

You're wrong as usual, Louie.  Being a coward is far different than taking your messages apart and illustrating how you continually contradict yourself.  While you may have attacked me on some lists with your fabrications, you have never embarrassed me - simply because you can only speculate about me.  Without facts, you're lost if you're trying to embarrass me.  Meanwhile, your speculation is worthless, and I think you realize that. 

So spend your time on your stupid website.  Most people take one look and realize what a psycho you are.  It says more about you than about me. 

I don't agree.  MOST people take a look, and spend about one hour.  My logs show this.  Then they come back again, and spend more time.  Every page view is logged individually, and it's quite easy to see a specific IP repeating.  If you would like to see logs, I'd be willing to show you some.  They can be quite large, but I can zip them as an email attachment.  Or, if you prefer, I'll even allow you to view AXS, which is a real time website analyzer, showing all activity right up to the second. 

Many people write me messages.  To date, not one message has called me a psycho or a liar or criticized me - but each and every one of them criticize you, or Frawley, or Yarnell, or all of you.  I wonder why that is.  If you have messages calling me a psycho or a liar, you can forward them to me - I'll reprint them verbatim, and credit you with supplying them.  I don't mind a bit.  Unless you have about 800 messages, mine outweigh yours.  (ie; messages calling you a psycho and a liar compared to messages calling me a psycho and a liar.)  I'd be willing to be fair about that, and let people see both sides.

According to you, (in your own messages printed on one of my (your) pages), you claim the website is full of lies and BS.  In reality, it's full of your own messages - reprinted verbatim.  I've even collected most of them in a small zipfile, complete with headers, IP numbers, routing info, etc. for immediate download.  Feel free to download it.  Over 80,000 people have downloaded it, you can too, any time you like.  Even if you're on dialup, it's so small, it takes under a minute.

I commented on what you wrote yourself.  You probably never considered the fact that if you had never given me the messages in the first place, I wouldn't have had messages from you to rebut and comment on. 

Obviously, as you've learned in the last three years, I won't tolerate your accusations that have no basis in fact. 

Therefore, your webpages have been viewed in the vicinity of a million times, the WFFCW in its entirety over 1,215,000 times.  I see no sense in writing rebuttal messages on a public list where you are permitted to continually accuse me of hanging dogs and shocking their testicles.  Writing the WFFCW created a far more logical tool, and has had a powerful, long lasting, far reaching effect on your invalid statements and accusations.  You created the WFFCW - with your own messages.  So did table expert Frawley - with his own messages.     

Enjoy Steve.

I don't do that anymore. 

Louie's Second Strike:

X-Original-To: steve at sl-prokeys dot com
Delivered-To: steveleigh@mail05.powweb.com
From: UnclLou@aol.com
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 11:16:28 EDT
Subject: Re: Rebuttal
To: steve at sl-prokeys dot com
X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5000
X-Antivirus: Clean

In a message dated 8/14/2004 8:41:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, steve at sl-prokeys dot com writes:

There's nothing I'm interested in debating about. 

 +++ Of course not.  I've embarrassed you so many times that you're afraid to have it happen again.  The same thing happens every time we have a debate on a public forum.  You lose your temper because you lose the discussion, you get rude and insulting and the moderators kick you off the list.  Your ideas about training dogs won't stand up to the light of examination so you're wise to keep them on your own website where no one can critique them. 

Well, I supposed a person might think I'm a psycho.  I have over 600 emails here stating that YOU'RE the psycho. 

 +++ No Steve, just about everyone thinks you're psycho.  The fact that you've given people I've upset a place to vent means nothing.  Most of them post anonymously and many of them bear an uncanny resemble to your style of writing.  I have no doubt that you're the biggest contributor. 

I have nothing to debate with you. 

+++ Of course you do.  We've disagreed and still disagree about Ecollars and drives, at the very least. 

Of course, nobody is prohibiting you from coming to my message forum and stating your side of what is written on my website. 

 +++ You'd just cut and paste what I write as you've done many times already.  You'd just resort to the same rudeness, name calling and profanity that you've done in the past and there wouldn't be any independent moderator to stop your behavior!  I still challenge you to come to any board and post your ideas.  

You're wrong as usual, Louie. 

+++ ROFL.  You can't even go three posts without trying to irritate me with rudeness. 

Being a coward is far different than taking your messages apart and illustrating how you continually contradict yourself. 

+++ Any contradictions that exist do so only in your mind.  They exist because you choose to fail to understand.  No one else seems to have that problem but you.   

While you may have attacked me on some lists with your fabrications, you have never embarrassed me

 +++ That's why you're the one who always goes to name calling and rudeness, because you're always the one who's right.  That's why you've been thrown off EVERY board where we'd have a debate.  I'm still on them Steve.  You're not.  You may be right; I didn't embarrass you.  You did that yourself!   

- simply because you can only speculate about me.  Without facts, you're lost if you're trying to embarrass me.  Meanwhile, your speculation is worthless, and I think you realize that. 

+++ Remember one claim to fame that you say you've done, the seminar that you say you put on in San Diego for the PD.  It seems that no one from either the PD or the SD remembers anything about it!  What a shock!  They say that they've NEVER had a seminar put on by a civilian and they never would.  No one there has ever heard of Steve Leigh.  Why am I not surprised? 

+++ And in the complete absence of any references, although other trainers are proud to name names, I know that you're still a zero.  I've talked to dozens of trainers from the Tampa area, not one of them has ever heard of you. 

I don't agree.  MOST people take a look, and spend about one hour. 

 +++ They're amazed at the depth of your psychosis. 

Many people write me messages.  To date, not one message has called me a psycho or a liar or criticized me -

+++ Let's assume that my part of the website has had 1,000,000 hits.  And let's assume that you've received 800 posts from people commenting on me.  We know, at least the reasonable among us know, that people who are upset and disagree are more likely to write than those who aren't, that's just human nature.  So using your numbers that's just .08% of the people who view your website.  Not a very large population is it Steve? 

+++ Anyone's who's as opinionated as I am and who has a large an Internet presence as I do, has irritated people, it's inevitable, even honorable.  It's nothing compared to the people who have learned from me and who have benefited from my advice. 

+++ But in any case I don't believe your hit counter.  Anyone knows that you can start the number anywhere you like and adjust them anytime you want.   

If you have messages calling me a psycho or a liar, you can forward them to me - I'll reprint them verbatim

+++ I doubt that you would Steve, even if I bothered saving them, which I haven't.  You see you're the one who's obsessed with me, Ed and Donn.  I don't give a damn about you.  Every time we've had one of these email exchanges it's you who started it.  The only time I've ever written to you when it wasn't in response to one of your demented ramblings was when I learned of you're wife's passing and expressed my sympathy.  You weren't even man enough to thank me, not that I needed or expected it. 

According to you, (in your own messages printed on one of my (your) pages), you claim the website is full of lies and BS.  In reality, it's full of your own messages

+++ Many of those messages have been edited.  You've conveniently left off your messages that preceded the ones where I resort to foul language after you've been doing it for quite some time. 

+++ And it's not just lies about me, it's a complete lack of understanding how a police department works that has led you to jump to false and illogical conclusions.   

I commented on what you wrote yourself.  You probably never considered the fact that if you had never given me the messages in the first place, I wouldn't have had messages from you to rebut and comment on. 

+++ I thought about it Steve.  Don't care, You see you're not important enough.   

I see no sense in writing rebuttal messages on a public list where you are permitted to continually accuse me of hanging dogs and shocking their testicles. 

+++ I don't recall accusing you of doing either one, on any public forum and not even in private email.  What I have accused you of is inflating your own importance and then refusing to supply references or names of dogs that you've certified in any sport or for any police department. 

+++ On any public forum where we've debated the same thing happened over and over.  You lose the discussion and then you start attacking me personally.  It's obvious that your ideas won't stand on their own and so you have to resort to ad hominem attacks.  Every time you've demanded my credentials and references, which I supply.  But then when I ask for yours, you refuse to give them.  Next comes the name calling and rudeness and then you've removed by the moderator.  How many times has that happened Steve?  Five?  Six?  Maybe more, I don't bother keeping track, it's not important.  I'm not the one who's obsessed. 

+++ And so to avoid having that happen another time you set up your website where you can run what is said.  This is just the Internet version of "taking your ball and running home."  I understand why you don't want to take part in any more moderated discussions. 

Writing the WFFCW created a far more logical tool, and has had a powerful, long lasting, far reaching effect on your invalid statements and accusations. 

 +++ It's done nothing but assuage your psychosis, and therefore it's done its job.  I'm still doing seminars, I'm still getting dog training clients.  In fact I've referred people to it so that they can see the depth of your insanity.  People who have seen it still ask for my services.  I'm not even advertising my dog training services and people are coming to me.  I have more clients than I want, I'm turning people away. 

You created the WFFCW - with your own messages.  So did table expert Frawley - with his own messages.     

+++ Pitiful Steve.  I used to hate you but now I just feel sorry for you. 

+++ I have no doubt that this exchange will go on until you again resort to profanity and name calling and I again block your emails.  But that's fine as long as it makes you feel better. 

Take care, Lou

Then Steve:

At 11:16 AM 8/15/2004, you wrote:

+++ No Steve, just about everyone thinks you're psycho.  The fact that you've given people I've upset a place to vent means nothing.  Most of them post anonymously and many of them bear an uncanny resemble to your style of writing.  I have no doubt that you're the biggest contributor. 

Log in and see for yourself.  The truth is right in front of your eyes.  I don't think you can find even ONE anonymous message in there.

+++ You'd just cut and paste what I write as you've done many times already.

Log in and read for yourself instead of telling me "what I would do".

+++ Any contradictions that exist do so only in your mind.  They exist because you choose to fail to understand. 

Log in and read for yourself - they're your own messages, full of contradictions.  You wrote them, not me.  The problem you're having here is I DO understand.

+++ Remember one claim to fame that you say you've done, the seminar that you say you put on in San Diego for the PD.

Click the picture to see what Louie is accusing me of - backspace to return here.

 

Here's a thought.  If I "put on" the seminar, why would I issue a certificate of completion to myself?  And why didn't I sign it as the instructor, if Voodoo Louie is honest?

 

Here's another thought.  I don't know a thing about KNPV, other than it's some form of competitive testing and includes bitework with a suit.  I've never seen KNPV training or competition - I've only seen dozens of dogs doing what I think is "KNPV bitework" - I'm not really sure.  I am sure I saw plenty of bitework in Holland, and it was all done with bite suits, not sleeves.  So why would I ever claim to "put on" a KNPV seminar when I know nothing about KNPV? 

 

My "claim to fame" is that I met Remke and Ap in Holland in 1994.  We immediately became friends, and they soon came to visit me here in Florida.  About two years later, in 1996, Remke and Ap were again coming to visit me in Florida.  Sgt. Payne asked if my friends would be interested in coming to San Diego and instructing a two day training class.  I contacted my friends, and they agreed.  I worked out the date details and travel arrangements with Sgt. Payne.  Remke and Ap flew to Florida, stayed about 10 days, then we flew to San Diego.  The three of us stayed at Sgt. Payne's home for about one week, then returned to Florida.

 

Note:  Remke and Ap paid their own airfare from Holland to Florida.  San Diego Police Department paid to fly three of us from Florida to San Diego.  Sgt. Payne was gracious to welcome us into his home (instead of a hotel), and to provide a very enjoyable "working vacation" for Remke and Ap.  We all had a wonderful time.

Read for yourself.  I never claimed to have put on a SDPD seminar.  I brought two KNPV friends from Holland, Ap and Remke - Sgt. Payne/SDPD "put on" the seminar.  I helped organize it, and did some bitework and translating - nothing more. 

+++ Many of those messages have been edited.

I'm attaching the originals so you won't have to bother for yourself.

+++ And it's not just lies about me,

Read for yourself.  There are no lies. 

+++ I don't recall accusing you of doing either one, on any public forum and not even in private email.

Your own words are right there, in complete, unedited messages.  By the way, the reason I was removed from two mailing lists was because I used messages you wrote, without asking anyone's permission, on the WFFCW. 

+++ I have no doubt that this exchange will go on until you again resort to profanity and name calling and I again block your emails.

I don't need to resort to anything: profanity doesn't bother me - it's been a component of speech throughout life.  I don't have to call you names.  And I certainly don't have to "resort" to anything.

I politely invited you to rebut my comments regarding what you have written.  I politely offered to show you logs of WFFCW page views.  I mentioned the zipfile, in which you accused me multiple times (and include Gene England in your accusations) of hanging dogs and shocking them on their testicles, along with words such as "until they're unconscious".  These are YOUR words.  I rebutted and commented on them.  ALL of them.

Since you're so hesitant to download the zipfile, I'll be extra polite and send it as an attachment.

If, after reading your own messages, you are STILL unable to admit that you did, in fact, repeatedly accuse me (as well as Gene) of these lies and fabrications, I will begin the name calling right now - by calling you a liar.    

Louie's Third Strike:

X-Original-To: steve at sl-prokeys dot com
Delivered-To: steveleigh@mail05.powweb.com
From: UnclLou@aol.com
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:14:43 EDT
Subject: Re: Rebuttal
To: steve at sl-prokeys dot com
X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5000
X-Antivirus: Clean

In a message dated 8/15/2004 9:53:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, steve at sl-prokeys dot com writes:

Log in and see for yourself. 

Log in and read for yourself

Log in and read for yourself

+++ Getting a bit redundant aren't you? 

I never claimed to have put on a SDPD seminar. 

+++ Your website said that you "put on/attended" the seminar.  And that's a swell certificate.  I could make up a much nicer one though.  In your emails to various lists you said that you "put on the seminar."  In either case, they've never heard of you. 

Read for yourself.  There are no lies. 

+++ ROFL.  Steve they're just as much lies as your claims to have trained police dogs and titled sport dogs. 

Your own words are right there, in complete, unedited messages. 

+++ You'll have to cut and paste them to an email.  I'll never open an attachment from you. 

By the way, the reason I was removed from two mailing lists was because I used messages you wrote, without asking anyone's permission, on the WFFCW. 

+++ And the other half dozen were because you were rude, inconsiderate, used profanity and flamed me.  Either way, you violated very simple rules that others, me included have no problem obeying.  They're generally the same rules that one obeys to maintain a presence in polite society, so I understand why you had so many problems with them. 

+++ How about all the piano lists you've been thrown off of?  Same reasons I bet.   

I don't need to resort to anything: profanity doesn't bother me - it's been a component of speech throughout life. 

+++ More than likely it's been a component of *your* life.  Most people are able to communicate quite well without it.  You've already shown that you're incapable of it.   

I don't have to call you names.  And I certainly don't have to "resort" to anything.

+++ Just a matter of time.   

If, after reading your own messages, you are STILL unable to admit that you did, in fact, repeatedly accuse me (as well as Gene) of these lies and fabrications, I will begin the name calling right now - by calling you a liar.    

+++ ROFLMAO.  I knew that it would only be a matter of time.  I didn't expect it so quickly though.  I had a very nice conversation with Gene England about a year ago or so.  He didn't seem fazed by the comments that you allege that I made.  Either you neglected to tell him about them, or he realizes the value of anything you say, as do I. 

Bye bye Steve. 

Then Steve:

At 01:14 PM 8/15/2004, you wrote:
+++ Getting a bit redundant aren't you? 

Sure.  Maybe you'll read sooner or later.

+++ Your website said that you "put on/attended" the seminar.

Not at all.

And that's a swell certificate.  I could make up a much nicer one though.  In your emails to various lists you said that you "put on the seminar."  In either case, they've never heard of you.

The photograph online seems to coincide with the videos, Thom Payne, Ap and Remke, and the facts.  Your messages don't contain facts.  It seems you just suggested that I forged the certificate I sent to you.  Even facts aren't facts to you. 

+++ ROFL.  Steve they're just as much lies as your claims to have trained police dogs and titled sport dogs. 

Certainly.  I suppose I forged the newspaper articles from Germany, as well.  In fact, I suppose I forged any and everything, because you're unwilling to deal with truth. 

+++ You'll have to cut and paste them to an email.  I'll never open an attachment from you. 

Naturally not - the truth is far more than you can handle, even with a virus scanner.  :)  It's just text, Louie.  But it's YOUR words you'd rather avoid.

+++ And the other half dozen

I have never been a member of that many lists.  I discovered (via you) that I don't care much for mailing lists.

+++ How about all the piano lists you've been thrown off of?

Never was on a piano list.  Hammond organs, sure.  Pianos?  Nope.

+++ ROFLMAO.  I knew that it would only be a matter of time.  I didn't expect it so quickly though.  I had a very nice conversation with Gene England about a year ago or so.

I seriously doubt it, which means I don't think you're telling the truth, which means I think you're lying.  Gene and I talk constantly, we'd surely share a laugh if you called him.  He laughs at you, Frawley, Yarnell, and the WFFCW regularly. 

He didn't seem fazed by the comments that you allege that I made.  Either you neglected to tell him about them, or he realizes the value of anything you say, as do I.

No, Louie.  If you spoke with him, you'd realize a few things as fact.  He's not fazed - Gene is *SO FAR* past caring what you (or Yarnell, or Frawley, or anybody else, for that matter) write about him or tables, he'd rather read through a phone book.  He's doing non-stop police classes up in KY, probably has trained more police dogs than any one person alive, and gets RESPECT.  He can't be bothered with internet messages - just like Thom Payne, and most of the people I RESPECT in dogs.  All they do is laugh, and go right on doing what they do.  I do too, except every now and again, I update the WFFCW.

The beauty of the WFFCW is so simple: it's like arguing with you 24/7,  for 3 years, and it's all done automatically, while I do other things.

You can't change the facts, Louie.  I don't care WHAT you write.

Louie failed again - so he takes Fourth Strike:

X-Original-To: steve at sl-prokeys dot com
Delivered-To: steveleigh@mail05.powweb.com
From: UnclLou@aol.com
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 18:41:06 EDT
Subject: Re: Rebuttal
To: steve at sl-prokeys dot com
X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5000
X-Antivirus: Clean

In a message dated 8/15/2004 11:12:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, steve at sl-prokeys dot com writes:

Sure.  Maybe you'll read sooner or later.

 +++ I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you. 

+++ Your website said that you "put on/attended" the seminar.

Not at all.

 +++ That's EXACTLY what it said.  By now you realize that you've been caught in yet another lie and probably changed it. 

It seems you just suggested that I forged the certificate I sent to you. 

 +++ Did you think that was a "suggestion?"  ROFL. 

Certainly.  I suppose I forged the newspaper articles from Germany, as well.  In fact, I suppose I forged any and everything, because you're unwilling to deal with truth. 

+++ So you're a world traveler; so what? 

+++ You've repeatedly claimed to have titled many dogs but refused to supply any of their names so it could be verified.  Common sense says, in that situation, you're lying.  You've repeatedly said that you've trained many dogs for many police departments yet you refused to supply any references so it could be verified.  Common sense says, in that situation, you're lying.  I could go on but you get the point.   

I have never been a member of that many lists.  I discovered (via you) that I don't care much for mailing lists.

+++ Of course you don't.  You like to be allowed to run wild name calling, being rude, using profanity freely.  Lists don't allow that.  They require that you behave like a mature adult and that's not in your repertoire. 

Never was on a piano list.  Hammond organs, sure.  Pianos?  Nope.

+++ Pianos, organs, who cares.  The point is the same.  You act the same way everywhere. 

+++ ROFLMAO.  I knew that it would only be a matter of time.  I didn't expect it so quickly though.  I had a very nice conversation with Gene England about a year ago or so.

I seriously doubt it, which means I don't think you're telling the truth, which means I think you're lying. 

+++ Easily checked.  Since you and Gene are such good friends you could ask him.  But then you'd learn that you're wrong and that might be too much for you to bear.  If he's forgotten, it wasn't a big deal, you might try reminding him that someone else that I've proven wrong on several emails lists, told him some lies about me and I called him to let him know.  He said that he admired me for being man enough to call him about it. 

If you spoke with him,

+++ Still easy to check.  He seemed like a real nice guy so I have difficult believing that he'd waste time with you.  But you probably spend all your time kissing his ass, so he tolerates you. 

You can't change the facts, Louie.  I don't care WHAT you write.

+++ Very true.  The facts are the facts, no matter how badly you try to distort them. 

+++ And I did make an error.  I blocked your email so it goes into my spam folder rather than be immediately deleted.  That error has been corrected. 

+++ Even if you manage to get through again, I won't bother responding.  I don't have time or interest to waste with you.  If you'd like to talk again, we can do so on a moderated, public list.  Somehow I doubt that you'll show up on any though, just someplace else that you'll be banned from in a short time. 

+++ So now it's *really* bye bye Steve. 

After Voodoo "dropped out", I responded as follows - and didn't get a reply.  Maybe he dropped out for real!

Louie, I'm not gonna bother playing games with you. 

You can't keep up with me, and you repeat the same rhetoric over and over.  It gets very boring proving how you contradict yourself from message to message.  You're like a broken record, skipping for three years.  Enough to make rocks get a headache. 

This is why the WFFCW is updated so infrequently.  It would be just more of the same old, tired, used up, repetitive, contradictory babbling you've been doing for years with SO many people on SO many lists.  

As of last night, you now have a new page on the WFFCW, titled "BRAND NEW LOU" - it contains each of your recent messages, printed verbatim.  They also went into the zipfile in less than 1 minute.  In less than 24 hours, it's been viewed over 60 times. 

You can claim the messages are false, edited, forged, or what ever you want to claim.  Nothing changes the facts.

Gene called me twice yesterday - he recalls your conversation - it lasted 1-2 minutes.  He's laughing about it.  Gene couldn't care less what you write or don't write.  Thom Payne called me yesterday.  He's laughing at you, too.  He doesn't care what you write either.  EVERYBODY laughs at you - ESPECIALLY once they've see the WFFCW.

The WFFCW causes nothing BUT laughter, and as I already told you - it's a powerful tool - 100% better than getting into "discussions" and "debates" with you on public mail groups.  The WFFCW runs 24 hours, 7 days a week, for the last 3 years.  With or without page counters (that you claim are forged), that site's been hit like a hurricane.  The logs prove it, but your guts and sheer bravery can't handle seeing *that*.   

Unlike you Louie, I'm honest.  There never was a need in my life to lie and pump up my ego - that's YOUR domain. 

Just for laughs, (my own, Voodoo, and a few others), I scanned a few items and put them on YOUR NEW page, hoping you'd publicly call them "forgeries" and illustrating (again) that you're an idiot.  Every one of them happens to prove that I have both titled competitive dogs, AND trained police department K9s.  You're sure to find a way to ridicule and beliitle them, but you'll still never change facts.     

If I felt inclined, I could put videos on the website showing at least 80 different police dogs (all with the handlers in uniform) on my tables. 

If I felt inclined, I could put videos on my site showing my participation in 18-20 trials, all of which I passed easily. 

If I felt inclined, videos of my participation at Landespolizeishule in Stukenbrock.  But why would I do THAT, Voodoo?  To prove to YOU that I'm honest?  That's not enough of a "reward" for me.

Go be a big boy.  Rent some testicles, call Gene (he's your "friend", now, isn't he?), call Thom Payne (you're a cop, right?  You can find a way to contact him.)  Go get your proof, evidence, confirmation, and complete your three year "investigation".  Then choke on it.  We've all been choking with laughter at YOU for three years, maybe it's your turn to choke.

Meanwhile, I'm going to keep right on proving your contradictions, fabrications, and accusations (let's just call them LIES) on a PUBLIC website.  It's called the WFFCW, and it's now OVER 1,216,000 views.

The proof is in the same place it's been for 3 years - on most pages of this site, and in this tiny zipfile for download.

On this page alone - in Louie's four messages - the accusations have ranged through:  altering page counters, forging people's reprinted messages, lying, editing Louie's messages, editing other people's messages, forging "anonymous" messages, forging a certificate issued by San Diego Police, and altering the non-existent "lies" on this site regarding who put on the San Diego KNPV seminar. 

(ps - The page counters are at the bottom of the pages in little numbers.  Visit a few times - you can figure out for yourself if the counters are "altered".)

Unknown to Louie, is how fast I can slap a webpage together.  This page was complete and online, within 1 hour of his last message.  It took about 10 minutes, including adding the new link on the menu.  Voodoo Louie spends FAR more time typing his millions of internet "Voodoo Expert" messages than I do adding a new page to the WFFCW.

As usual, I've been challenged to produce my "credentials", so they can be "checked" and "verified" for Voodoo's approval.  Unlike Voodoo Louie, I don't feel the need to "produce credentials". 

I've done what I've done, and don't need to wave it around like a flag.  Many people have accomplished far more than I have, and many people have accomplished less.  Big deal.  Some people are short, others are tall.  Some people are honest, others are liars. 


Voodoo's accusations of "forgery" got me thinking .......

and when I get to thinking, SARCASM is my middle name

FORGERY'S FUN!

Above, Louie accused me of "forging" this certificate.  In Louie's words, "And that's a swell certificate.  I could make up a much nicer one though."  I guess "forgery" is a pretty common hobby - lotsa people do it - even Voodoo could "make up a much nicer one"! 

Well, here comes the sarcasm .... 

Besides that certificate, I stole the letterheads (below) from both agencies, and while nobody was looking, I typed up the letters, then "forged" the signatures. 

click for a larger view

Naturally, anyone can readily understand why I would jeopardize myself and take such risks.  The situation was criticalno matter what, I had to provide "credentials" and "credibility" for Voodoo Louie's "internet message group interrogation verification". 

I though I could get away with the "forgeries", but Voodoo Louie caught me.  Yes, sir, he sure did!

His detective skills are amazing.  He's a "trained police officer".  Voodoo Louie is just like a fat little disabled Kojak, Beretta, and Perry Mason, all rolled into one.  A "SUPERCOP", if ever there was one!

Since "forgery" really IS a lot of fun, I "forged" these newspaper articles, too.  I ran into one minor problem - I had to go back to 1986 to forge them.  But I just used the Voodoo Louie Time Machine to do it.  It's a machine that tosses time around like confetti. 

When I went to Recklinghausen, Germany to "forge" them, it was a thrill!  I'd never broken into a newspaper before, and done any "forged" typesetting.  It was such an exciting experience that I did it at 4 different newspapers!  Then I did some more in Bochum. 

While I was at it, I "forged" some trophies and plaques, and came home with a suitcase full of "forged" awards, too.

But I should have known - Voodoo Louie will claim these pictures are too old.  Distorted.  In a foreign language.  The text isn't clear.  The pages are yellowed.  It's too hard to tell if that's really me.  Many other people in the world have the name "Steve Leigh".  Gasoline prices are high.  It was raining. 

Voodoo Louie will come up with six million reasons why he needs more "verification", "certification", "proof", and "credentials". 

BUT VOODOO LOUIE'S NOT GETTING ANY

The following Voodoo Louie Castle message was located on Frawley's LEERKOPF™ "doggy expert" site,

and it was conveniently deleted.

However, Frawley or his puppets didn't move quite fast enough - I captured the web page before the deletions.

Click here for the screen capture, then scroll around.  Use your backspace key to return here.

Voodoo Louie then pasted approximately the same message on the "Live Journal" message board.

This is in the evidence zipfile, titled "Leerburg-Voodoo LiveJournal".

Here's the link to the "fixed" page with ten days of messages "deleted".

When you snooze, you lose.


The "NEW VOODOO LOUIE" wrote these lies on September 6, 2004.

Voodoo has a number of contradictions contained in his typically "honest" message.

Let's take a look:


LC: I'm proud to say that I've had experience with Mr. Leigh. Although your characterizations of him as a "muppet" and a "nob head" are much too kind. Look around on his website and you'll find MANY more comments made about me than about Ed. Leigh also attacks Donn Yarnall on the same site.

 

Well naturally!  Voodoo Louie has so much more to SAY, therefore so many more CONTRADICTIONS exist, along with absolute falsifications.  We'll find a few in just a moment ...... Ready?

LC: Mr. Leigh is a deeply disturbed person. A quick look at the section of his website where he tells people of his very detailed plans for suicide will reveal that.

 

Voodoo obviously can't comprehend that page - it doesn't even contain the word suicide.  It's pretty apparent that he's studied my website very carefully, though.  Personally, I believe everyone on earth should have choices regarding end of life, such as advance directives, living wills, choice of medical treatment, etc. 

 

But that subject is completely irrelevant here.  It's time to dissect Voodoo Louie's "honest" and "truthful" words. 

 

Even without that someone who maintains a website of that size to criticize three people

 

The word "criticize" doesn't even apply.  I'm REBUTTING and CONTRADICTING lies and falsifications.

 

Additionally, all the pages of the WFFCW total a whopping 1.77 megabytes.  All of Voodoo Louie's pages currently total an astounding 644 kilobytes.  Most of us have at least ONE digital picture larger than the WFFCW website.

 

he's never even met

 

Thanks to the internet, it's not necessary to MEET someone to be subjected to the kind of public attacks, lies, accusations, and degrading remarks aimed at me and others.  Voodoo Louie supplied ME with the messages so I could print them, and rebut his falsifications.  That was his choice.  Now Voodoo whines and cries that they're all "forgeries".  Except that the FACTS prove differently.

 

is a stalker at best and a psychotic at worst.

 

I beg to differ - I'm an extremely honest man with self respect, and considerable respect for others.  Numerous professionals: my own psychologists, psychiatrist, and pastor, have not yet diagnosed me as "psychotic". 


LC: I'll let Ed tell you of his history with Mr. Leigh but as for me . . . We disagreed on several forums years back, beginning, I think it was on the PDL (Protection Dogs List). We argued about drives and Ecollars. At one point he asked for my credentials

 

Just one look at Voodoo's "Attack" pages will prove this falsification.  Simply follow the messages and dates.

 

The only one I know of who "asks for credentials" is Voodoo Louie.  And he does this endlessly, constantly, everywhere.

 

which I presented and then I asked for his.

 

Voodoo Louie "presented credentials" which - by his own words - are PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.  His claims of 25 years as K9 trainer are so utterly ridiculous there's only one word to describe them: LIES.  The K9 Martyr page conclusively proves this, along with numerous other Voodoo pages.  And Voodoo Louie wrote them HIMSELF.

 

He refused to present any for quite some time, saying that he wasn't required to show me anything. This continued until he realized that his credibility was being placed in doubt. He then presented some vague comments about having trained and titled "many dogs" in AKC obedience,

 

This is an excellent example of Voodoo Louie's habit of manufacturing LIES

 

FACT:  I have never, at any time in my life, shown a dog in any AKC competition, whatsoever.  I have never claimed to. 

OFFER:  If Voodoo Louie can produce VALID proof of this lie,

I will remove the ENTIRE Voodoo Louie Castle section of the WFFCW from existence,

INSTANTLY and PERMANENTLY - this offer EXPIRES on Sept. 27, 2004

RESULTTime's up - offer expired - Voodoo Louie had 3 weeks.

 

SchH

 

FACT:  I have unquestionably titled dogs in SchH, here in the United States and in Germany.  I've received DVG, SchH USA, and SV titles.  Same offer:

OFFER:  If Voodoo Louie can produce VALID proof of this lie,

I will remove the ENTIRE Voodoo Louie Castle section of the WFFCW from existence,

INSTANTLY and PERMANENTLY - this offer EXPIRES on Sept. 27, 2004

RESULT Time's up - offer expired - Voodoo Louie had 3 weeks.

 

and Ring Sport.

 

FACT:  I have never in my life ATTENDED any Ring Sport function, never mind competing or titling a dog.  I have never seen Ring Sport, and know nothing about it.  And - because I'm not the liar - I have never claimed any such thing.  Same offer:

OFFER:  If Voodoo Louie can produce VALID proof of this lie,

I will remove the ENTIRE Voodoo Louie Castle section of the WFFCW from existence,

INSTANTLY and PERMANENTLY - this offer EXPIRES on Sept. 27, 2004

RESULTTime's up - offer expired - Voodoo Louie had 3 weeks.

 

He also made references to having trained and supplied dogs to "many" police departments. I asked for specifics, the names of some dogs that he'd titled and references from some PD's that he'd supplied dogs for.

 

Voodoo Louie never "asked" - he DEMANDED - in dozens of public, humiliating and degrading messages.  That type of approach is something I will not tolerate.  His very own messages are all over this website, and are contained in the evidence zipfile for download.  The same type messages are all over the internet, in groups I've never even heard of.  When Voodoo demands "credentials" and "references", some people just roll over.  NOT ME

 

I think it's reasonable that someone making those claims would be PROUD to supply that information; yet Mr. Leigh steadfastly refused.

 

In case it isn't obvious, I don't care WHAT Voodoo Louie thinks is "reasonable".  When I'm publicly attacked and degraded, which is Voodoo's specialty, I PROUDLY do not take it like those who bend over for Voodoo Louie.   

 

I'll supply OR refuse whatever I want, whenever I want.  Voodoo Louie is not my judge, and I refuse to allow him that freedom.  I will not be interrogated by Voodoo Louie. 

 

If interrogation is a prerequisite for joining a mail group, then EVERYONE in the group should be required to submit to interrogation.  Until then - no interrogation.  

 

When I pointed out to him that in the face of such a refusal it was reasonable to believe that he wasn't being honest, he began personal attacks including name calling, general rudeness and profanity. He was finally thrown off that list.

 

This is pure Voodoo Louie bullshit.  I was removed from two lists for one simple reason:  I copied messages written by Voodoo Louie DIRECTLY to pages of the WFFCW and didn't ASK PERMISSION to do so.  There was no rudeness, no attacks, no profanity.

 

The list moderators made that perfectly clear.  This, too, is in the evidence zipfile.  Simply stated, the list moderators don't want to see the defamatory Voodoo Louie dirt from their wonderful "message groups" on a WEBSITE.  And THIS website gets hit. 

 

I unsubscribed from the Protection Dogs L list.  I wasn't "thrown off".  My "UNSUBSCRIBE" message is in the evidence zipfile.


LC: But that wasn't enough for him! He showed up on another list I was on and began the debates all over again. They went exactly the same way. We'd disagree and state our positions, he ask for my credentials, which I'd provide and then I'd ask for his. He'd refuse and then finally supply them but with no details.

 

First of all, I couldn't care less about Voodoo's "credentials".  I don't care about his insane "debates".  Voodoo Louie's stories change from one minute to the next. 

 

Secondly, I feel no need to supply Voodoo Louie with anything.  Voodoo Louie is NOT the judge, this is NOT a courtroom, and nobody's on trial.  If Voodoo Louie ACQUIRES THE AUTHORITY to interrogate me, I'll worry about it then.  Until such time, he's just out of luck. 

 

I'd ask for specifics and he'd go to personal attacks. This occurred on about half a dozen more lists,

 

I have not been on a half dozen dog related lists.  Let's try some honesty, and flush the Voodoo down the toilet:  Protection Dogs List, ECollars list, Malinois list, and Fred Hassen's private list - Voodoo Louie wasn't even allowed on that one.  SAR Dogs list (in which I didn't write anything, but captured a few Voodoo messages).

 

each discussion going nearly identically. Each of them culminating in the same flaming and with the result that he'd be thrown off the list. I felt that we could have cut and pasted our earlier comments to the "new" discussions. Finally he ran out of lists to repeat this process.

 

This is pure Voodoo bullshit, and the pages of this website prove it. 

If Voodoo Louie can prove I was thrown off any lists, he ought to do so.  WHAT LISTS?  REALITY is:  I finally realized that Voodoo Louie is allowed to write anything his heart desires, abuse, ridicule, challenge, and degrade people - and I realized almost ALL list moderators allow him to continue this without intervention or control.  I "ran out of" the stupidity of subjecting myself to Voodoo Louie's endless public degrading.  I stopped participating in email lists.  It's easy - just UNSUBSCRIBE.   

 

I wrote privately to one moderator about this, and she played smoke and mirror.  That was the Protection Dogs list, in which she claimed she wasn't the list owner one minute, and was the list owner the next minute.  I'm referring to a list I DID participate in - the Protection Dogs-L list, moderated (or owned) by a woman named "Dianne SanLorenzo".  Her messages are in the evidence zipfile. 

 

The other list was an SAR Dogs list, moderated by some woman named "Liz Marr", a list in which I don't believe I ever even wrote a message. 

 

I just copied two or three of Voodoo Louie's attack messages, degrading a gentleman named Jack Schuler, a man I'd never heard of before, and slapped together the "Jack Attack - Voodoo Attacks SAR" webpage.  Since I didn't "ask permission", Liz Marr removed me from the list.  Her messages are in the evidence zipfile.     

 

Now for a little TRUTH:  Because of his abusive, derogatory, inflammatory messages, Voodoo Louie was permanently banned from an ECollar list.  That, too, is contained on this page of the WFFCW.  So Louie promptly rejoined under a fake name ("Sam" - illustrating again what an honest cop Voodoo Louie actually is), was discovered immediately, and banned AGAIN.  THAT list moderator would NOT tolerate Voodoo's incessant abuse.  Congratulations to Eric Lundquist. 

 

Realizing the futility of trying to contain personal differences in PRIVATE MAIL, I created the WFFCW, featuring luminaries such as "Table Expert" Ed Frawley and Voodoo Louie Castle.  World K9 Challenge Expert Don Yarnell was included later. 

 

All three have exactly the same "qualities": they love to publicly abuse, degrade, belittle, and ridicule people.  It doesn't stop.  

 

Logically, the WFFCW is a far better vehicle - I don't need to type 9 million argumentative messages and take the abuse from Voodoo Louie that he thrives on.  I simply reprint Voodoo's messages word-for-word in RED, and add my comments in BLUE.  It can't get any simpler.


LC: He then began a private email war with me. There he went to profanity and name calling immediately. I'm an eternal optimist and thought that if I could just get him to listen to reason he'd calm down and we could have a decent conversation. I'm also an idiot to have thought this.

 

Read Voodoo's pages here on the WFFCW and determine for yourself about "decent conversation".  "Listen to reason"?  "Calm down"?  What Voodoo really means is "agree with me and supply your credentials".  NO, Voodoo.

 

If Voodoo had never supplied me with these messages, I would have nothing to rebut and no way to illustrate his own delusional contradictions.   

 

For several weeks we exchanged emails until finally I grew tired of the name calling and responded in kind. After asking him several times to stop bothering me, I had to block his email address to stop his insanity. But he just changed it and sent me another email. I blocked that email address and he again changed it to get his email through. This continued until I'd blocked six of his email names. I finally had to block his entire domain to get him to stop.

 

As usual, Voodoo Louie is a liar.  About 5 messages were exchanged privately within one or two days.  And that's about it.  Read this link, and see for yourself. 

 

Voodoo tosses around time like it's confetti - he's got the Voodoo Time Machine.  If Voodoo Louie can prove it, let him prove it.  The evidence zipfile already proves it.


LC: A few years back his wife passed away.

 

Voodoo Louie is a liar.

 

Rebecca, my wife, died on August 21, 2003.  Today's date is September 6, 2004.  The rest of the world can probably determine that's barely over one year.  In Voodoo Louie's "truthful" world, that's "a few years back".   Rebecca has been gone exactly 382 days. 

 

This is another excellent example of Voodoo's form of "accuracy".  Any dictionary will show "accuracy" is synonymous with "truth".  Is Voodoo Louie either "accurate" or "truthful"?  I SAY ABSOLUTELY NO.

 

I learned of it about a year afterwards and in spite of our history, sent him a brief sympathy note. I unblocked his addresses and domain to allow him to respond if he cared to; the optimist/idiot in me again. He wasn't even man enough to acknowledge it.

 

Voodoo Louie is a liar. 

 

He wrote his phony "condolence message" on November 30, 2003 - exactly 101 days after Rebecca's death.

 

I DID NOT acknowledge Voodoo Louie.  I don't believe he was sincere any more than I believe anything else he writes.  From past experiences, I believe Voodoo is nothing but a pathological, manipulating liar

 

I thanked many other people for their concern, compassion, and care.  They were sincere.  I'm "man enough" to acknowledge that Voodoo Louie Castle is full of shit.

 

But a short while ago he did start sending me rude emails again. Up went the blocks again.

 

Voodoo Louie is a liar. 

 

I sent Louie a polite invitation to see the newest update of the WFFCW.  Voodoo Louie took it from there.  It's shown above, right on this page.

LC: And so he retreated to his website where he can write whatever he wants with absolutely no one disagreeing or correcting him. He hasn't shown up on any public lists for a debate since, even though I've invited him numerous times.

 

Louie can disagree anytime he wants.  He can try to "correct" me, for all the good it will do him, but he can't ever change what he's written.

 

Debating is Voodoo Louie's job, not mine.  I created this website - despite the 30+ complaints from Frawley and Castle to Tampabay Roadrunner.

I have the same right as everyone else in the world - the right to REBUT, DISPUTE, COMMENT, and DENY any statements made by anyone, particularly any statements concerning me.  If I choose to do it on my website, that's MY choice.

The difference between myself and Voodoo Louie is very clear: I WRITE THE TRUTH - Voodoo Louie writes lies. 

 

LC: I believe that he's mentally unbalanced and that he needs medication. At times he goes off for no apparent reason.

 

There are licensed doctors to take care of that.  I certainly don't need Voodoo Louie Castle and his magical voodoo bullshit.

 

Out of the clear blue sky he'll email me and tell me to go look at his website as he has a couple of times.

 

That's correct.  I wouldn't want Voodoo to think "his" WFFCW website disappeared.  It's still here.  Periodically I remind him, periodically others remind him, periodically a link is posted to the WFFCW on various message groups. 

 

If you haven't picked up on this: If Voodoo had BLOCKED my email addresses (as he claims above), then how would he ever know I sent him messages to go look at this website?  He claims my entire DOMAINS are blocked. 

 

Now - naturally - along comes one of his famous Voodoo Louie lying excuses.     

 

(For some reason when I upgraded my email system the blocks didn't carry over so he was able to get through.)

 

Sure!  How often do we upgrade?  Louie has received update notices plenty of times in the last three years.  I suppose each time, he had JUST UPGRADED his system, and the blocks FAILED each time!  My, my, my - how convenient - "for some reason". 

 

Anyone in the WORLD could recognize a message from steve at sl-prokeys dot com and delete it immediately if they choose to. 

 

But Voodoo Louie didn't delete - instead he READ the messages - which is how he knows they referred to this website, rather than any other topic!  Get out the smoke and mirrors - and bring along the LSD, too.  It's Voodoo Time.

 

Just a few weeks ago he phoned me. He has a very distinctive voice and I recognized him immediately.

 

Voodoo Louie is a pathological liar. 

 

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE NEED TO TAKE NOTE:  He claims "just a few weeks ago he phoned me". 

 

I never called Voodoo Louie Castle before September 6, 2004.

 

Since I've never had a phone conversation with Voodoo Louie in my life, "He has a very distinctive voice and I recognized him immediately" leaves a LOT to be explained.  We'll see how he "Voodoos" his way out of this one. 

 

Besides stating, "This is Steve Leigh", when Voodoo Louie answered the phone, maybe he looked at his magical "Voodoo Caller ID"?

 

He said, "Turn off your phone so I can leave a message." I asked why he didn't want to talk man to man and he hung up. He called back about 45 minutes later and when I answered he said, "I don't want to talk to you." And then shouted, "TURN OFF YOUR PHONE!" He quickly hung up. He called again about two hours later and this time shouted, "TURN OFF YOUR PHONE!" Again, he quickly hung up. He phoned a few hours later and shouted, "DO IT NOW!" This time he didn't hang up. Growing weary of this stupidity I told him to stop calling and warned him that if he called again, I'd report him to the police. I then hung up on him. He called back about two minutes later and again shouted, "DO IT NOW!" and then hung up.

 

Please don't be surprised, but Voodoo Louie is a liar. 

 

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE NEED TO TAKE NOTE:  Voodoo Louie claims FIVE phone calls within approximately 5 hours.

Read Voodoo Louie's OWN WORDS:

 

call #1 - "He said "Turn off your phone so I can leave a message."

call #2 - "He called back about 45 minutes later" : "I don't want to talk to you." "TURN OFF YOUR PHONE!"

call #3 - "He called again about 2 hours later" : "TURN OFF YOUR PHONE!"

call #4 - "He phoned a few hours later" : "DO IT NOW!"

call #5 - "He called back about two minutes later" : "DO IT NOW!"

 

These are direct Voodoo Louie quotes - don't lose track of this detailed Voodoo collection of bullshit and falsification. 

 

Also, ladies and gentlemen, kindly note that Voodoo Louie's own words CLEARLY indicate a grand total of 31 words spoken by me within FIVE phone calls.  Take another look above, and see for yourself.  Have I miscounted?

 

However, my telephone bill plainly shows a grand total of five phone calls, on five different dates, over a period of FOURTEEN DAYS - September 6 through September 19.  Only one call was made on each of five different dates, none exceeding 4 minutes.  And the last call wasn't even made by me. 

 

Be sure to read this page and compare Voodoo's lies to the facts.  And please DO click on the link above to see the original screen capture.  Voodoo Louie can't tell the same story twice without lying at least once.

I called Voodoo's "Internet Phone Training Hotline", and asked him politely to not answer, so I could call right back.  I clearly explained I wanted to leave him a voice mail for posterity.  I wanted to leave a message that he would be able to hear more than one time and refer to, should he need clarification.  Voodoo obviously can't understand anything very well, so a recorded message would be HELPFUL to his ability to comprehend.  He could play it over and over and over, maybe it would sink in. 

LC: Even on the telephone he wants to talk and talk and not be corrected or interrupted.

 

But according to Voodoo Louie, I spoke EXACTLY THIRTY ONE WORDS in FIVE calls. 

That's "talk and talk"? 

That's an average of SIX WORDS per call, with one word left over.   

 

I wanted to leave a message on Voodoo's VOICE MAIL, but Louie couldn't handle that, it was entirely too frightening for him.  There's nothing to "talk" about with Voodoo Louie.

 

Voodoo Louie Castle is not mentally capable of correcting me.  That's out of the question.   

 

A few years back I consulted an attorney to see about suing him to get him to take down some of the information on his website.

 

SEVENTEEN TIMES - in approximately three weeks - Voodoo Louie "consulted" the Legal and Security Supervisors at Tampabay Roadrunner with his complaints and threats of lawsuits.  He wanted the WFFCW removed from the internet.  Their response:  UNFOUNDED.  Apparently Voodoo's threats and complaints didn't work very well.  The WFFCW is still here, isn't it?

 

Since I've made myself an Internet public figure (if there is such a thing)

 

OH YES!  Voodoo Louie certainly IS an "internet public figure"!  And what a "figure" he IS!

 

I have nearly 800 emails which all say the same basic thing:  Voodoo Louie Castle is nothing but an ego bloated, wannabe dog trainer, a lying, exaggerating, obnoxious, inflammatory, argumentative pain in the ass.  Read a few Voodoo pages - see for yourself.  If I ever get around to it, I'll place a few hundred MORE "fan letters" on his pages, and include them in the evidence zipfile.  Why not give some more free publicity and credit to our favorite "INTERNET PUBLIC FIGURE"?

 

I think that some comment, some criticism and even some rudeness is and should be allowed. But Mr. Leigh has crossed the line into actual libel when he puts up much of the information that is on that website.

 

Well then, Voodoo can specify exactly what "much of the information" is "actual libel".  If my attorney agrees, I'll remove it.  Otherwise, it stays.  I'm a fair and honest person - and I just gave my word publicly

 

The attorney said it was an obvious case and offered to initiate the lawsuit for $50,000. (That was just the starting point.)

 

Since it's such "an obvious case", surely Voodoo Louie can convince him, or some other attorney, to take the "case" on contingency.  After all - Voodoo can't lose, right?  Most attorneys who actually believe they can win will accept a case on contingency.    

 

The problem is that I don’t have 50K on hand.

 

No?  Another famous Voodoo Louie Castle excuse.  With all that disability from all those injuries, all those Ecollar seminars Voodoo Louie puts on, all those Dogtra AND Tritronics Ecollar sales, all the dog training Voodoo Louie claims he does, the customers Voodoo Louie turns away because he has TOO MANY training clients, that awesome Voodoo Louie website, and NO MONEY?  How could that be - a world famous "internet public figure" such as Voodoo Louie Castle?

Does Voodoo Louie have any collateral?

I might have covered the whole table, but I ran out.

Maybe these pictures are "forgeries".

And when we won, because Mr. Leigh has no assets to take. It would be an empty judgment. But if you all want to chip in I'll be happy to go forward with the case! LOL!

 

Unfortunately, Voodoo Louie's finally right.  I have no assets that he can take.  Unless Louie would like to try and take this ....

 

If I win the lottery, I'll be sure to let him know immediately. 

 

However, I have some things that Voodoo Louie never had: honesty, accuracy, dignity, and self respect.  Voodoo Louie can try and sue me for them.  He'll never get them any other way.

 

But Voodoo - YOU CAN NEVER WIN.  The WFFCW proves - THANKS TO YOUR OWN MESSAGES - precisely what you've typed over the years.  Not even your punctuation has been changed.  Archives exist from every list you've ever been on.  The evidence zipfile is nothing but a miniscule example of your endless lies and internet conflicts. 

They're all YOUR WORDS, Voodoo Louie,

and you provide them to me so I can illustrate nonstop contradictions

from the internet's famous LYING COP - Voodoo Louie Castle

 

Have your attorney contact me, maybe I'll give him some free depositions 

 

THIS IS THE "NEW VOODOO LOU"

AND HE'S STILL NOTHING BUT A

VOODOO LIAR


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