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The WFFCW was created August 5, 2001 :: we're 16 YEARS OLD!
WHAT IS THIS WEBSITE ABOUT? Some of this is a personal website containing REBUTTAL, REPLY, and COMMENT to (primarily) public statements and accusations made by various self proclaimed "internet dog training experts". The majority of the statements and accusations are FALSE, and refer to me, personally. The nucleus of this website is based on verbatim quotes of public messages, most of which are archived with their respective lists. Unless noted, nothing has been altered, other than formatting line length to screen width and changing the font style. Other parts of this site contain OPINIONS, HUMOR, PARODY, COMEDY, and SARCASM which reflect my own personal sense of humor and viewpoints. The First Amendment of the Constitution adequately, particularly, and specifically provides these rights. This site is for educational and entertainment purposes. This is emphatically not a "hate" site. There is no hate, and never was. Profanity is kept to a minimum, but it does exist. If this website seems offensive to you, in any way, please leave now. Please do not subject yourself to being offended.
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Frawley's Fred Hassen Attack
Frawley's text is RED
Steve Leigh's text is BLUE
Frawley Attacks Fred Hassen:
From: "Ed Frawley" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:01:47 -0600
I was sent a copy of a post that you sent to the Protection Dog List in which you decided to post Steve Leigh's web site on me. Maybe you feel this is funny. I do not.
Anyone can disagree on different aspects of dog training. In fact it's pretty hard to get two experienced trainers to agree on dog training. In these cases normal people "agree to disagree". Leigh chose to make this into a personal insulting attack. If this is the kind of person you wish your name associated with then so be it.
I have added a section on my web site for people to post their opinions on you and your seminars. As of this morning my list has 913 registered members. It went on line 3 1/2 months ago. I have also removed you name from the discussion board. If you wish to play with Leigh then I suggest you and he start your own board and see how many people come.
As anyone can see, Frawley can dish it out just fine, but can't take it when somebody gives it back. I started a website, and it looks like plenty of people are visiting.
Above, Frawley accuses ME of making "this into a personal insulting attack".
But as Frawley's messages to me show, HE'S the one calling ME ..... "motherfucker, redneck, asshole, slimy like cocksucker, someone who likes little boys". This began in August, months before these messages to Fred.
Excuse me .... WHO made the personal attacks?
I don't believe in taking too much shit without giving some back. That's the way it is. I believe in standing up for myself.
Since I wrote this series of webpages, our pages have been read OVER ONE MILLION TIMES. A whole lot of people are laughing at all this, and plenty of them now get to see some REAL psychotic Frawley antics.
Notice that Frawley "doesn't think it's funny" .... Why not? That's EXACTLY what it is! The Frawley pages only illustrate what an absolute IDIOT Frawley really is .... and his own messages reconfirm it, over and over and over again.
Exactly like Frawley threatened me, he threatens Fred Hassen .... he's "added a section" to his "web board" so he can ridicule and badmouth Fred behind his back. Exactly like his tactics with me, he strokes his own ego by bragging about the zillions of "registered members", as if anybody actually gives a shit.
Frawley capitalizes on people who are ignorant of dogs, training, sports, and anything connected. He can't peddle his bullshit to real, full time, professional trainers - they don't want to hear it.
Frawley yipyaps about "agree to disagree", and "normal people". His "normal people" messages on this page (and others) indicate EXACTLY how "normal" he is.
The way this works, Frawley is "normal" and he "agrees to disagree" by calling me a "motherfucker" and a "slimy like cocksucker". It's OK for Frawley to write that way, but nobody else is allowed. He "doesn't think it's funny" that I wrote up this website showing how little Frawley really knows.
He claims "it's hard to get two experienced trainers ....." - but the very basis for this series of pages is that
FRAWLEY IS NOT AN EXPERIENCED TRAINER
He has ZERO experience with table training, yet he holds himself up as an "EXPERT" with tables, and writes articles about them. He freely condemns and accuses, but he doesn't actually KNOW a damn thing about them. He's never SEEN tables - this is proven by his own description of them. He can't stand it when somebody (me, for example) challenges every lie and bullshit statement that he wrote, so he freaks out and goes psycho, calling me names.
When you read this, Frawley - and everybody knows you will - remember some facts. Plenty of us were training dogs in the 70s, without you or your goofy ideas - and we're still earning a living from it today. Some of us see right through your "expert" bullshit, and realize there's nothing but a mouthy, ego bloated, yipyapping psychopath in there. Your kiddy vidz don't mean a thing to us, your "approval" of what or how we do things is worthless, your moronic threats about "If you want your name listed in the next printing of my catalog - 45,000 copies will be printed go ahead and screw with my copyright articles." ...... (THAT was a lie, too, wasn't it?) are worthless. Essentially Frawley, you represent "nothing" to a whole LOT of people. Absolutely NOTHING.
More Psycho Frawley, again attacking Fred Hassen:
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:39:45 -0600
From: "Ed Frawley" <email@example.com>
Dont worry about any further emails fro me. I could give a shit about you.
Let me refresh your memory. Here is your post and it is not done in response to any photo of table training. So lets not bull shirt one another. You made this post because you thought it was cute to do so. Being cute can come back and bite you in the ass.
You are correct about my web board. It very well will not make any difference that I removed you from the board. You have your business and I have mine. You have your Level 4 dealership and I have my 41,000 people on my mailing list and a web site that gets 500 to 1000 hits per day. I see no reason in giving one cent of promotion to someone who does what you did on this list. Thats why you are off the board. I will ask Donn Yarnell to post to the section on the board where people comment on your schools. He should have something interesting to say.
Frawley's right on the border ..... much more stress, he's gonna overdose or something. First he's whining and moaning because Fred mentioned a page that I wrote about Frawley "the expert" and table training. Next thing you know, "I could give a shit about you."
Then why bother writing any of this trash in the first place? The answer is easy: Frawley thrives on badmouthing people. Obviously, his threats to Fred didn't get the desired results, so Frawley tries to jump up a notch or two. Now he's gonna get Don Yarnell to ridicule Fred (behind his back, of course) and then he'll feel much better.
I've got news for Frawley, Yarnell, and anybody else who plays Follow-The-Frawley. None of 'em will have any effect at all on anybody's future in dog training. That goes triple for Voodoo Louie Castle - another loser with a mouth the size of Texas. Frawley is delusional about how much control and influence he wields in the world of dog training. His 41,000 catalogs have gone to his head.
Frawley's problem - besides always looking for conflict - is that he can't recognize. He can't realize and accept that lots of people are NOT intimidated by his bullshit and lies. He's stupid enough to look for fights with guys that will happily confront his stupidity, and fight back, showing what an idiot he is. But he keeps on and on, he never quits. Just like Voodoo Louie.
Is he done yet? NO WAY!
Look below .... Frawley sends approximately the same message, a day later, but using a different name. Fred blocked Frawley's address (firstname.lastname@example.org) so Ed had to get in the last word .... and became email@example.com to do it. Above he says "don't bull shirt me" - and doesn't bother fixing it below, although he's edited a lot of other parts. But he sure does escalate the threats!
From: "Ed Frawley" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:17:52 -0600
Don't worry about blocking this email address - I have no interest in emailing you again.
Let me refresh your memory. Here is your post and it is not done in response to any photo of table training. So don't try and bull shirt me. You made this Protection dog post because you thought it was cute to do so. Being cute can sometimes comes back and bites you in the ass. That's what is going to happen here.
You are correct about my web board. It very well will not make any difference that I removed you from the board. You have your business and I have mine. You have your Level 4 dealership and I have my 41,000 people on my mailing list and a web site that gets 500 to 1000 hits per day. You sell your electric collars and I sell training videos to police officers. I see no reason in giving one cent of promotion to someone does what you did on this list.
I will ask Donn Yarnell (and a few others) to write a little piece on what he thinks of you and your police Service Seminars.
You gotta love these intimidating messages. Frawley's gonna get Yarnell (and a few others) to "write a little piece". It'll be a "little piece of shit", because one of Frawley's puppets will help Frawley "get even" - by badmouthing somebody behind their back. Just like Frawley's bullshit messages about table training, just like Frawley's moron "article" about table training. It's all about badmouthing somebody - it's not about facts. When you got no facts, you got no facts. Frawley would starve himself for a week before he'd miss an opportunity to discredit somebody.
Frawley is deluding himself (lying) again, claiming that his 41,000 customers are police officers. It's amazing how Frawley continually seeks out conflict, loves threatening people with the terrible things he thinks he can do to them, and just never seems able to do it himself, without assistance. He always needs support, help from somebody else, to hold people up for ridicule. Just exactly like the world famous legend, Voodoo Louie Castle, the K9 Martyr. If you've somehow missed the link to Voodoo Louie Castle's Tribute Page, just click right here. Voodoo Louie is in a class of his own.
Below: Frawley can't live without badmouthing and discrediting Fred. So he writes "a little piece", and belittles Fred behind his back. But he needs help from his LEERKOPF™ puppets. I highlighted some interesting points.
Steve's comments are BLUE
Here's Frawley - on his own home ground, "his web board" - badmouthing at his best. Belittling and discrediting is what Frawley specializes in, just like his puppet/prostitute pals, Voodoo Louie Castle, Don Yarnell, and super-trainer, Kevin Shelldish or whatever his name is.
Here is Frawley PIMPING Voodoo Louie, getting Louie to do his dirty work. Discredit, badmouth, defame. All behind Fred's back.
|I went to a Fred
Hassen E-collar seminar in Brooksville, Florida. I thought he put on a
good seminar, he got plenty of work done, and the people seemed
pleased. Although Fred talks fast, nobody appeared to
misunderstand him, or require repetition of his words. One of
my long-time clients went with me. He and I understood Fred
Now isn't it odd - the seminar was sponsored by the same woman who owns the Protection Dogs list. It was held on her property. Voodoo Louie did not conduct the seminar, Fred Hassen did. Why in the world would the famous star of the PD-List, the world authority on E-collars, not conduct this seminar?
Frawley's never been to Fred Hassen's seminars, BUT HE KNOWS ALL ABOUT THEM. Just like table training, Frawley is the expert. He knows it ALL.
He states "there is no room for a civilian with NO LAW ENFORCEMENT experience training Police K9 deployment to cops." However, it's done every day in cities all across America.
To show what a lying hypocrite Frawley IS .... two trainers that Frawley calls acknowledged master trainers - Brian Mowrey and Stewart Hilliard - are civilians. They're not police officers. They regularly train law enforcement dogs with law enforcement officers, and Frawley praises them.
Nobody ever mentioned "DEPLOYMENT" ..... that's Frawley's idiotic key word, nobody else's.
Tucson Police K9 had Fred Hassen as a guest speaker address hundreds of police officers at a seminar in Tucson last year. Fred is a civilian. Why did Tucson PD do this?
Because obviously there is ROOM FOR A CIVILIAN WITH NO LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE
That's why. Frawley has mental problems understanding and accepting the facts. The list of civilian trainers that work successfully with police dogs is absolutely staggering. Tom Rose, Mike Rankin, Jerry Bradshaw, Joe Morris, are just a few examples, and there must be hundreds more. Hell, I've even trained plenty of law enforcement dogs. And I've never claimed to be a "master trainer".
GENE ENGLAND, the most competent dog trainer in the world, has trained HUNDREDS, probably THOUSANDS of police dogs. He's a civilian, and dozens of police agencies from all across the country "have room" for him. Gene literally IS a legend in the dog training world. Care to challenge THAT, "Expert" Frawley?
Frawley's own cyberbuddy, Voodoo Louie Castle, knows who trains his department's dog. Surprise! He's Rodney Spicer, and he's a civilian.
"Expert Ed" dictates (above) what civilian trainers CAN train K9 officers, as if he's some kind of world authority. But he's not.
He's a freak who thrives on discrediting individuals that don't agree with him. The more he badmouths, the happier he is. He preys on beginners and ignorant people, and peddles his vidz-fer-kidz tapes. He claims to have an open mind, that's bullshit. "A mouthy psychotic" adequately describes Ed Frawley. His constant backstabbing, badmouthing approach to "letting people know" is nothing but an outlet to satisfy Frawley's over aggressive, psychotic insecurities. He writes his bullshit stories about subjects he has no knowledge of, and discredits anyone who doesn't agree with his outlook. That's MY opinion!